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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:01:05 (permalink)
The dairy industry is still cruel. I think you could make an argument that eggs from free range hens is fairly cruelty free though.
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:01:40 (permalink)
A problem with veganism is that if humans have no need for cows, pigs, sheep..... they'll probably go extinct.
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:01:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby w1003 2019/01/09 20:50:35
Life is cruel, why the fuck should chickens get a free ride when I have to be up at 7.30 every day for work?

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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:03:16 (permalink)
I suppose you could make them fight if you wanted some additional cruelty but didn't want to buy a small windowless box.
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:06:06 (permalink)
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I tried almond milk in my tea today, initially i didn't like it but i think i'd quickly get used to it. Maybe soy milk would be better? I'd rather my tea didn't taste and smell like almonds, ideally.
 
Vegan cheese surely can't be good? I'm going to buy a load of vegan stuff and give it a trial run




I couldn't go full vegan just because I love a cup of tea so much. Tried the milk options you suggested and couldn't get on with them. I'm not against farming animals so long as they're treated right, I just hate thought of animals being killed to satisfy my greed.




 
Slicing their neck and letting them bleed to death isn't treating them right lol




Think he was implying he's ok with milk as it's only a bit of a titty grab.




This. Killing animals in anyway I'm not cool with. Farming for dairy products providing the animals aren't kept in cages is fine. 


the diary industry is just as bad for killings. to produce milk a cow must be pregnant or have given birth, constantly, for its entire life, till its glands dry up and its a bolt to the head.
imagine your life being constantly pregnant and having the kid taken away never to be seen again.
anyway what do you think happens to those calves. financially there's only so many they can keep alive to turn into food. 

The estimated 95,000 calves disposed on-farm represents 19% of the male dairy calves born, according to the most recent figures from the dairy industry body AHDB. In 2013 the number had fallen to 13% of male dairy calves born from a previous 21%. The exact numbers shot on farm is difficult to collate as farmers destroying calves within a few days of birth on farm do not need to register the birth - and neither does the company collecting and disposing of the animal.

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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:08:08 (permalink)
I'm not sure I wanted to know that.
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:11:21 (permalink)
Arcadian

the diary industry is just as bad for killings


all them leather covers innit
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:11:56 (permalink)
I just long for the day that a chicken can cross the road without its motives being questioned.
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:13:31 (permalink)
I’m just planning on cutting down on meat. For example, every prepacked lunch meal from pret or wherever doesn’t have to have meat in it now unlike how I used to demand.

Cut out milk too but I read almond milk isn’t exactly great either the amount of land it requires per volume of milk
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:18:05 (permalink)
REDBOY1978
A problem with veganism is that if humans have no need for cows, pigs, sheep..... they'll probably go extinct.


It depends on the breed, numbers would reduce but some would survive ok as feral herds.
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:27:25 (permalink)
Think of how essential the sun alone is for almost any life form. Most chickens now don’t even see sunlight in their life time so all the ‘life processes’ and energy that the sun brings are instead replaced by injected growth hormones, fattening agents with antibiotics. All just to increase the yield and I guarantee them farmers aren’t eating that shit 🤮🐓
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:30:02 (permalink)
So hungry right now
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:30:18 (permalink)
Even the big, gay hippy/hipster falls foul and rejects it after a few months. Being vegan is hard work.


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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:33:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby w1003 2019/01/09 20:52:40
willfunk
So hungry right now




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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:35:36 (permalink)
I've gone temporarily veggie after smashing a high number of amazing steaks in Argentina over Xmas and thinking more about the environment impacts. It's actually been easy, just needs some effort finding meals that aren't all salad or pasta. Def gonna stick to a low meat diet if not giving it up completely. I've been shitting much better as well.

I never thought this would be the place i come to for info on veganism and low energy bills.
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:37:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Jimmy2Shoes 2019/01/09 21:49:31
Violife original vegan cheese tastes quite a bit like cheese strings which is either a good or a bad thing dependent on whether you like cheese strings I suppose!!! I quite like them!
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:40:35 (permalink)
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We try to eat vegan / vegi 3 or 4 days a week and might have some meat on the other days. We try to buy our meat responsibly (where the animals have been treated better) but I'm more for cutting down for the environment sake. If everyone ate plant based a few days a week and meat production was reduced it'd massively help with global warming.



We try and do this too. Some veggie dishes, like a tofu stir fry are just as satisfying as a meat based one. 
 
Tried almond milk and it gave me chronic gas, soy is disgusting and oat is basically water porridge, so ditching milk wouldn't be an option for me.
 
The few vegans in the office can be quite preachy.
post edited by S8 - 2019/01/09 20:41:38
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:43:12 (permalink)
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The dairy industry is still cruel. I think you could make an argument that eggs from free range hens is fairly cruelty free though.




 
As males don't lay eggs, male chicks are usually destroyed (gassed or put into a blending machine) as soon as they are sexed. 
 
There is a machine in development that can sex eggs prior to hatching now, so that should sort that out with any luck. 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg0-mB7d5I8
 
 


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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:46:39 (permalink)
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So hungry right now





Is this a tarp?
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:48:48 (permalink)
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I tried almond milk in my tea today, initially i didn't like it but i think i'd quickly get used to it. Maybe soy milk would be better? I'd rather my tea didn't taste and smell like almonds, ideally.
 
Vegan cheese surely can't be good? I'm going to buy a load of vegan stuff and give it a trial run


Vegan cheese is horrific and it fucking stinks when it's being cooked as well. One of the Vegan activists I know through work reckoned there are loads of good artisan Vegan cheese makers based in London so it might be worth a google.

Koko dairy frees milk and yogurt is edible...avoid their cheese though, especially the blue cheese they do, I nearly barfed over their stand at a show the first time i sampled it!

Eat Real Snacks (made by Cofresh) are really good if you want Vegan Crisps

Planted by delamere dairy have a nut and oat milk which are alright, think they only have distribution in Asda currently but that was in November, they may have more listings now

Oatly seems the favourite milk with Vegans so that's worth a go

Freedom mallows are Vegan and are pretty close to the real thing

Clearspring who would be available in health food stores have a huge range of products and are 100% Vegan

Perkiers bars and balls are nicer than most of the health bars like Nakd

White rabbit pizza co's Vegan one is alright as is One Planet Pizza but with the later I'm not sure whether they have distribution in the multiples

Derek Sarno has developed a range with Tesco called Wicked Kitchen which i heard is nice

Just go to Wholefoods market in Kingston and have a nosey mate- better selection than the supermarkets and it's pretty local to you- your shop will cost a fucking fortune there but it will give you some ideas....if you find stuff you like, let me know as I'll be able to find out for you were to get it cheaper than WFN.

The other good place just to try loads of products and see what you like are exhibitions, my companies one in this space in London ain't til July but Vegan Life live is on at the Ally Pally mid-march and might be worth a visit...tends to attract more of a health orientated audience rather than the Vegan militants or come up sunny Glasgow 2-3 March and visit my next one 😂😂
post edited by frizzyd - 2019/01/09 20:54:05
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:51:18 (permalink)
Legit streak minced beef burger from Sainsbury's. Well, the packet said it was streak mince. Fucking lovely, brah. 10/10 WB.


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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 20:55:21 (permalink)
frizzyd
Planted by delamere dairy have a nut milk 




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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:02:30 (permalink)

 
Are those two any good? Seen them in Sainsburys
post edited by RAYZA - 2019/01/09 21:03:31
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:11:56 (permalink)
Newish brand to the market, don't know.

Beyond burgers in Tesco are meant to be good, they are a US brand and have been around for years but finally launched in the UK last year:
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:22:20 (permalink)
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Cut out milk too but I read almond milk isn’t exactly great either the amount of land it requires per volume of milk


Something like 1000L of water per litre of milk produced I read?
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:24:16 (permalink)
just munching some vegan scampi, i doubt i'd have guessed it was scampi if i didn't know
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:26:02 (permalink)
YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT SCAMPI.

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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:30:30 (permalink)
my advice would be
 
get the happy cow app to find small local vegan restaurants. they'll make stuff from scratch for you to take home or tell you what to buy and how to make. I found this one by me in that makes banging bbq seitan and mac and cheese
 
go to a veganfest. there's loads of food stalls with substitute meats. get ideas and ask where to buy, find out online independents 
 
avoid getting involved with the vegan culture and those using it for virtue. what others are doing is down to them focus on yourself.
 
avoid all or nothing thinking, just because you eat meat or cheese one day, don't see yourself as a failure and give up, you're making a difference, just go again tomorrow. do what you can and accept that you've had many years of eating meat/dairy as a daily routine that will at times be overbearing to break and it will take time.   
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:34:28 (permalink)
Lrrr
YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT SCAMPI.




it was pretty rank tbh
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Re: Going vegan 2019/01/09 21:35:39 (permalink)
Arcadian
 
go to a veganfest
 
 




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