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2018/05/06 21:28:25 (permalink)

Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled)

Obviously there's that site that tells you but post tunes you just heard and recognised the sample.

I'll start.
https://open.spotify.com/...znpvmzQ5SieUq1v3G3Fqfg

https://open.spotify.com/...SVfbfx3qRdOw6GMkf2qumQ
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 05:16:54 (permalink)


One of the great unsolved dnb mysteries. How did this relatively obscure hip hop filler track end up being sampled in at least 5 (by my count) dance floor smashers in 95-97?

Must have been some acapella b-side but there were heaps of them about back then - what made this so special? Also weird that none of them sampled the hook, the verses got rinsed.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 06:48:29 (permalink)
Fairly obvious one:

https://youtu.be/fv0Ze8vtf2Y

Fair amount of times that I've realised that producers I hailed as creative geniuses basically lifted entire hooks from original tunes.

This is another one:

https://youtu.be/V56yeZtqQTs

No taking anything away from Bukem / Adam F, or wanting to get into a "what is sampling and what is plagiarism debate". Just pointing out how I had very little understanding of how prevalent / integral "sampling" was In jungle / early dance music.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 07:20:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Noc 2018/05/07 07:32:14
that Red & Meth track was huge and Wu Tang were already being sampled to death by Hype, Zinc et al but yeah, it's weird how many lines off it were sampled - Ready Or Not, 6 Million Ways, Punks, Funk Phenomenon...
 
Here's one I only found out about last year. Always thought it was off some obscure jazz record but skip to 3:08...
 

 
 
post edited by soulfocus - 2018/05/07 07:54:30
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 07:25:21 (permalink)
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Fairly obvious one:

https://youtu.be/fv0Ze8vtf2Y

Fair amount of times that I've realised that producers I hailed as creative geniuses basically lifted entire hooks from original tunes.

This is another one:

https://youtu.be/V56yeZtqQTs

No taking anything away from Bukem / Adam F, or wanting to get into a "what is sampling and what is plagiarism debate". Just pointing out how I had very little understanding of how prevalent / integral "sampling" was In jungle / early dance music.


First time I'd heard that Surkit one, but neither of them detract from the fact that Atlantis or Circles are stone cold classics.



Taking a snippet of an old/obscure tune and turning it into a banger is an artform in itself. Daft Punk are the absolute masters
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 07:27:02 (permalink)

 

 

 
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 13:49:59 (permalink)
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that Red & Meth track was huge and Wu Tang were already being sampled to death by Hype, Zinc et al but yeah, it's weird how many lines off it were sampled - Ready Or Not, 6 Million Ways, Punks, Funk Phenomenon...
 
Here's one I only found out about last year. Always thought it was off some obscure jazz record but skip to 3:08...
 

 
 




Which reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPO76Jlnz6c
 
3 years after https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvkdapztgvI
 
 
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 19:28:01 (permalink)
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Fairly obvious one:

https://youtu.be/fv0Ze8vtf2Y

Fair amount of times that I've realised that producers I hailed as creative geniuses basically lifted entire hooks from original tunes.

This is another one:

https://youtu.be/V56yeZtqQTs

No taking anything away from Bukem / Adam F, or wanting to get into a "what is sampling and what is plagiarism debate". Just pointing out how I had very little understanding of how prevalent / integral "sampling" was In jungle / early dance music.


First time I'd heard that Surkit one, but neither of them detract from the fact that Atlantis or Circles are stone cold classics.



Taking a snippet of an old/obscure tune and turning it into a banger is an artform in itself. Daft Punk are the absolute masters



Yeah as i said, i'm not taking away anything from the D&B artists in question, just that as i have become more knowledgeable about music I've realised that there are levels of sampling - taking a five second snipit from an obscure 1940's film score (like Premier has done here - https://youtu.be/wYmIS8Xve5k?t=54s) and lifting the keys AND the bassline in their entirety from a track are two separate things. 

Daft Punk are a great example. Used to take micro snipits of drums and vocals and chop them up like the garage producers of old so the samples where unrecognisable, later they are taking a 16 bar loop sticking a 4x4 underneath and calling it a day, but i will still loose my shit if i am super pissed and one more time comes on regardless. 
 
I am conscious that this whole thing did the rounds ad nauseam when the whole Marvin Gaye / Blurred Lines thing was kicking off so probably am asking for trouble here. 
post edited by mouse oxford - 2018/05/07 21:10:46
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/07 19:35:45 (permalink)
I am doing a dnb sample playlist if of interest --> 
 
http://forum.breakbeat.co.uk/tm.aspx?m=1976087702
 
currently at 650 tracks.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/08 06:49:48 (permalink)
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/08 08:46:19 (permalink)
Got to be the most sampled tune of all time that.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/08 09:03:27 (permalink)
lick wood mean rewind............
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?cv=r98s1uq5iLI
 
cant find the original atm
post edited by FROUC - 2018/05/08 09:05:27
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/08 09:31:19 (permalink)
dreamworld
Got to be the most sampled tune of all time that.


I think James Brown - Funky Drummer holds the record for most sampled tune ever. Amen Brother has to be up there too.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/08 12:52:57 (permalink)
Listened to a Horace Andy compilation recently and it seemed like almost every track had been sampled for a D&B tune.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/08 19:23:29 (permalink)
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/08 21:02:26 (permalink)
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dreamworld
Got to be the most sampled tune of all time that.


I think James Brown - Funky Drummer holds the record for most sampled tune ever. Amen Brother has to be up there too.



Lyn Collins - Think (https://youtu.be/Jiqxkdhzi_M?t=1m23s) & Melvin Bliss – Synthetic Substitution (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3RaaHfzcD0)
 
These breaks are absolutely everywhere as well. 
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 01:28:42 (permalink)
mouse

 

 

 
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(serious video!)
 

 




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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 01:30:33 (permalink)
Hopeton Lewis & U-Roy - Tom Drunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lffTZFV1y60



Or maybe;

Herman Marquis - Tom's Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MVdQrBWpBk



Either way;

Reflection Eternal - Fortified Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNo4_J-lD00


 

CTRL + ALT + WHITEY
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 06:08:20 (permalink)
Ta Whitey. Couldn't remember code for embedding.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 07:39:17 (permalink)
Are modern producers still “digging in the crates” for samples? Can’t remember the last thing innovative/inventive sample I heard on a tune.

Surely we’re due a wave of 90s/early 00s tunes being sampled other than an entire vocal hook or melody being lifted?
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 08:16:51 (permalink)
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Are modern producers still “digging in the crates” for samples? Can’t remember the last thing innovative/inventive sample I heard on a tune. 

Surely we’re due a wave of 90s/early 00s tunes being sampled other than an entire vocal hook or melody being lifted?

 
Last one I remember (and really liked) was this one
 

 
Which sampled this 
 

 
or this
 

 
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 08:30:43 (permalink)
some newish serum bit samples this
 

 

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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 09:29:25 (permalink)
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One of the great unsolved dnb mysteries. How did this relatively obscure hip hop filler track end up being sampled in at least 5 (by my count) dance floor smashers in 95-97?



Are you trolling? I was listening to this track as a 13 year old in a Hertfordshire village lol
 
Meth and Red are two of the biggest rappers from the 90s and this is their biggest tune. The remix was also pretty huge.
 
No mystery as to why D&B producers samples it either. Jungle and hip hop always went hand in hand. No idea why I'm writing this - we all know it.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 10:14:57 (permalink)
Lol, they made a pretty famous film based on the tune too 
 
Zinc can probably account for half the tunes that sample it
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 10:26:51 (permalink)
massive track rinsed on westwood for weeks with an accapella on the b side and came out in the year of trick of technology, woo hah remix and a thousand other hip hop laden tracks. it was always going to get plundered. i reckon i could name 20 tracks that use it.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 10:27:49 (permalink)
Come on, if you’re picking Red and Meth’s “biggest tune” it has to come from the Blackout LP that came 5 years later. It was the remix even further down the line than that they used for that terrible film.
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 10:52:40 (permalink)
But the film was named after the original tune lol
 
And it's neither a relatively obscure tune or one of the great unsolved mysteries in dnb
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Re: Who sampled (finding tunes randomly that were sampled) 2018/05/09 11:02:48 (permalink)
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But the film was named after the original tune lol
 


The film came out 7 years later and didn’t feature the original track in the movie or the soundtrack - only the (awful) remix.

If you were to name the biggest hip hop tunes of that era, How High probably wouldn’t make the top 50.

But it’s by far the most sampled hip hop vocal in that 2 year period, by a weirdly huge margin. There were plenty of other huge tunes that never got sampled in dnb that much. Where were the Nas, Biggie, Wu-tang, Snoop tracks that could have been equally rinsed?

It’s just always seemed odd to me that this tune was the one that spawned half a dozen jump up tunes where other, bigger tracks only managed one or two at best.
post edited by Noc - 2018/05/09 11:14:51
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