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Goodone
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/04 20:29:06 (permalink)
In case there was any doubt
Buscemi Eyes
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/05 07:17:47 (permalink)
Piers Morgan trying to tackle gun control...
 
WITH AN EGG
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4WnmfOfirM
 
 
PapaJaro
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/05 08:55:12 (permalink)
dazdsb
Oh man that video is fucking harsh. Not much makes me wince these days but that's awful. Fuck sake.

+1111  It brings it home much more than watching hours of rolling tv news coverage imo. And the fact that the authorities were switching off the lights and somebody felt the need to run around checking to see if there was anyone left alive. That's fucked.
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/05 09:18:15 (permalink)
Why were "authorities switching off the lights" ?
wiseacre
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/05 09:33:27 (permalink)
so his targets weren't lit up like a christmas tree?
 
apparently the police discovered which room he was in as all his firing set off the smoke alarm. 
 
and he tried to get a similar room for a hip hop event the week before but htey had none facing it available. 

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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/05 09:58:43 (permalink)
wiseacre
so his targets weren't lit up like a christmas tree?



Figures, I guess. Although it didn't really sound like he was picking targets
SW14
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/17 13:17:33 (permalink)
ISIS lose the capital of their caliphate Raqqa to the SDF, or what is left of it.

Meanwhile a ridiculous situation taking place in Kirkuk as Iraqi security forces and Iranian militias fight the Kurdish Peshmerga with both sides armed with US weapons. Trump says he "isn't going to take sides".
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/17 13:23:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby PapaJaro 2017/10/17 14:28:35
Pretty bad to see almost no coverage of the bombing in Somalia
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/17 13:28:05 (permalink)
No coverage either of some fruitcake who wanted to wage war with the fbi the other week
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/13/man-who-planted-bomb-at-nc-airport-wanted-to-fight-war-on-u-s-soil-fbi-says.html
 
Maybe that's cos hes a white fruitcake and not a black or muslim one.
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/17 13:37:40 (permalink)
Shiverman
Pretty bad to see almost no coverage of the bombing in Somalia


Yes, absolutely appalling attack. Another hydra head in the global jihadist insurgency, over 500 casualties. Terrible loss of life.
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/17 14:27:56 (permalink)
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wiseacre
so his targets weren't lit up like a christmas tree?



Figures, I guess. Although it didn't really sound like he was picking targets


 
Sorry didn't see the response. Somebody (I think) switched lights off thinking everybody was dead. That guy was running round to see if anyone was actually still alive (there were some groans). It hadn't occurred to me that this kind of thing would go on.
 
I don't have the heart to watch that again so grim. 
Goodone
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/17 14:54:00 (permalink)
geordie007
No coverage either of some fruitcake who wanted to wage war with the fbi the other week
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/13/man-who-planted-bomb-at-nc-airport-wanted-to-fight-war-on-u-s-soil-fbi-says.html
 
Maybe that's cos hes a white fruitcake and not a black or muslim one.


Islamic terror attacks occur / are foiled weekly across Europe and barely get reported on now
SW14
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/10/31 21:36:40 (permalink)
"Allah Akbar" screaming terrorist mows people down in NYC killing 8 so far. Sigh.

I'm betting a Hare Krishna.
Goodone
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 10:31:59 (permalink)
Lol I think people would rather talk about Tories pissing on each other than come to terms with the unpalatable reality that we are a society in crisis
wiseacre
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 10:38:26 (permalink)
well, what's there to talk about, especially with you being a massive speng?

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Goodone
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 10:42:13 (permalink)
Sighacre
RUSSELL CLARTY
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:02:16 (permalink)
I think now we've kind of reached the "agree to disagree" stage, it's going to be the low hanging fruit like the smell of wee from Tory party headquarters


SW14
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:16:37 (permalink)
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.newsweek.com/new-york-terror-suspect-visa-trump-698146%3famp=1

Killer entered the US as part of an Obama era "diversity lottery".

"So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot." - George Orwell.
wiseacre
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:23:51 (permalink)
the diversity lottery has been going since 1990 and had several precursors - starting under reagan.
 
damn those left wingers.

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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:24:10 (permalink)
you mean he wasn't a Hare Krishna after all then ?
Goodone
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:25:11 (permalink)
Jungle Dave
I think now we've kind of reached the "agree to disagree" stage, it's going to be the low hanging fruit like the smell of wee from Tory party headquarters


Fair enough lol a place to talk about trannies and make rape jokes will be a welcome respite from the slow suicide of the west.
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:26:14 (permalink)
Ah yes Obama, I knew it was him! Even when I thought it was the bears I knew it was him.
SW14
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:34:51 (permalink)
wiseacre
the diversity lottery has been going since 1990 and had several precursors - starting under reagan.
 
damn those left wingers.


 
Republicans had tried to end it 7 times since 2007, trying to give the visas to highly skilled international tech students at American Universities instead. A rather more sensible policy than dishing them out to Uber drivers from Uzbekistan with a name that translates as "sword", you might think. 
gutlessrhyme
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:38:36 (permalink)
What else is there to discuss other than Trump's travel ban wouldn't have had any effect on this whatsoever. 
 
I await the outrage of this incident killing 8 people being 100x the magnitude of the Vegas shooting last month which killed 59.
SW14
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:42:04 (permalink)
What was the motive for the Vegas killing? We still don't have the first clue, beyond a (probably spurious) claim from ISIS. 
 
We know the motive for this. The same motive as there usually is when people are senselessly slaughtered being deliberately crushed by a vehicle walking along the street in the Nice, London, Stockholm or Manhattan.
 
Hint - "Allahu Akhbar". 
RUSSELL CLARTY
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 11:53:33 (permalink)
It's more than reasonable to equate the Vegas shooting of over 500 people with the truck attack- or rather, equate the political response. 


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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 12:02:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Whagwan 2017/11/01 22:17:36
SW14
 
Republicans had tried to end it 7 times since 2007, trying to give the visas to highly skilled international tech students at American Universities instead. A rather more sensible policy than dishing them out to Uber drivers from Uzbekistan with a name that translates as "sword", you might think. 




Question 27 of Visa application:
 
Does your name translate to any form of ancient weaponry? Yes/No
gutlessrhyme
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 12:04:25 (permalink)
SW14
What was the motive for the Vegas killing? 



Is the motive that important when the result and methods are similar?
 
Crazy man wants to kill people. So long as your response considers them both appropriately and doesn't prioritise one over the other due to political agenda.
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 12:05:56 (permalink)
I think political outrage should be based solely on the number of deaths.

SW14
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Re: ISIS Talk & Speculation 2017/11/01 12:12:42 (permalink)
Yes, I'd argue that the motive is very important when it is part of an incessant wave of global terrorism in the name of a vile and largely homogeneous ideology. Bearded wrong 'un "Allahu Akhbar" screaming jihadist lunatic who should never have been in the country to begin with. 
 
It is certainly important for it to be defined as "terrorism", which needs a political motive.
 
Vegas was deplorable, another senseless loss of life but it is hard to link it to anything wider because we simply don't know why he did it. In fact, the lack of information coming from the investigation is incredibly strange. 
 
Bring in gun control as soon as you like. Bring in immigration control too, so that shitbags like this and the Abedi family aren't inflicted on our societies to wreak this kind of havoc. 
 

post edited by SW14 - 2017/11/01 12:17:07
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