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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/13 15:31:56 (permalink)
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@Law, yeah that video was insanity. Destiny Pictures 😂. I imagine their intelligence said that he was a big movie fan, so that would woo him. Very Trump, “the king of tacky” as Carla Bruni described him. It’s also quite amusing that despite the flash trains and cutting edge tech, America won’t be investing leaving it to Japan, China and South Korea cos “that’s their neighborhood”.



 
Apparently there is a real owner of "Destiny Pictures" in the US, who had precisely fuck all to do with the propaganda film- he's a bit confused right now and having words with his lawyers


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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/19 06:52:58 (permalink)

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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 13:46:11 (permalink)
Harley Davidson have just announced they are going to shift some production abroad after the EU retaliatory tariffs that have been placed on Harleys in response to the US tariffs in EU products.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44604280
 
Had to chuckle at that one, his plan of mare made in America is working...
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 14:14:17 (permalink)
Next US President is gonna have to spend most of thier first term unfucking everything that Trump has done.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 14:21:33 (permalink)
not sure how much of it will even be un-fuckable. it's going to be some long-lasting damage, that's for sure.
 
god only knows what damage he'll end up doing if he somehow gets a second term. 
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 14:50:09 (permalink)
I wouldn't be at all surprised it Trump get elected for another 4 years.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 14:58:21 (permalink)
He'll absolutely get another four years. Even if he isn't going to get the vote from the people there will be bots and trolls from across the world ensuring he gets it again. No way Putin is going to let his little puppet get kicked half way through the project. 
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 15:16:10 (permalink)
we'll see what happens in the november mid terms. if he gets a kicking he may have to tone it down.

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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 15:20:11 (permalink)
i don't think there is a toned-down version.
 
he's well en-route to becoming the dictator he wants to be. he'll just keep pressing on no matter the opposition now.
 
he's already talking about 'suspense of law' in regards to kicking out people crossing the border isn't he? 
 
one step away from taking the law into your own hands, dangerous talk. 
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/25 18:00:57 (permalink)
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He'll absolutely get another four years. Even if he isn't going to get the vote from the people there will be bots and trolls from across the world ensuring he gets it again. No way Putin is going to let his little puppet get kicked half way through the project. 




If bots and trolls was enough to land the leader of the free world, we'd have had a few Presidents from here and Vance Miller would be running a Cambridge Analytica operation.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 11:51:34 (permalink)
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He'll absolutely get another four years. Even if he isn't going to get the vote from the people there will be bots and trolls from across the world ensuring he gets it again. No way Putin is going to let his little puppet get kicked half way through the project. 




Definately in for another 4 years of this shit. His core support is rock solid, growing even, and they just don't care how mental/extreme he gets. Anything negative is brushed aside as fake nooz... or the Dems fault.
 
Even most recently with kids being separated from their families due to a policy signed off in April this year was somehow obama's fault... or Clinton's... Can't remember which now. Not that it matters, these rednecks are so entrenched that they just invent their own reality now.

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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 12:00:30 (permalink)
I'll be a monkeys uncle if he gets another 4 years
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 12:02:12 (permalink)
Another 4 years will mean American Fascism becomes a thing, not just a moot point. 
 
Hopefully his health will give out before then 


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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 12:05:04 (permalink)
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He'll absolutely get another four years. Even if he isn't going to get the vote from the people there will be bots and trolls from across the world ensuring he gets it again. No way Putin is going to let his little puppet get kicked half way through the project. 




Definately in for another 4 years of this shit. His core support is rock solid, growing even, and they just don't care how mental/extreme he gets. Anything negative is brushed aside as fake nooz... or the Dems fault.
 
Even most recently with kids being separated from their families due to a policy signed off in April this year was somehow obama's fault... or Clinton's... Can't remember which now. Not that it matters, these rednecks are so entrenched that they just invent their own reality now.


There was a fair bit of hysteria and fake news flying around that story as well. A serious topic but some highly disingenuous imagery was associated with it.

Pictures of a crying young girl who wasn’t separated from her family, pictures from an Obama era Arizona detention centre circulating on social media etc...
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 12:45:03 (permalink)
the obama era pics were of unaccompanied children, or those not with parents/direct relative (ie people smugglers)
 
trump enforced separation of all children, even those with parents who were following the asylum process to the letter.
 
and believe, a pic of crying girl separated from her family would have been used, but ICE prevented any journalists from seeing all but the most sanitised holding areas with definitely-not-cages.
 
pretty disingenuous yourself.

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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:03:07 (permalink)
Even cnn was calling out the EGGregiousness of the fake news pumped out by the 'liberal' media.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:03:24 (permalink)
I’m not in favour of splitting children up from their families but I am in favour of a far tougher line on irregular migration. It is only going to end one way with an explosion in population growth in countries which are struggling to support those already there.

Trump has deported less immigrants than Obama in their respective first years in office, so perhaps his hardline message has deterred people from trying.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:11:38 (permalink)
Agreed. Some horrible statistic like 80% of women who cross the border illegally, have been raped. What do you think would happen to unaccompanied children? What life do you reckon lies ahead of them if they are allowed in unaccompanied?

This initiative was trying to tackle that issue rather than rejoice in the splitting up of families. It's also worth bearing in mind that these families are there illegally so whilst admittedly the optics don't look good I think America has a right to enforce its laws
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:20:51 (permalink)
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Agreed. Some horrible statistic like 80% of women who cross the border illegally, have been raped. What do you think would happen to unaccompanied children? What life do you reckon lies ahead of them if they are allowed in unaccompanied?

This initiative was trying to tackle that issue rather than rejoice in the splitting up of families. It's also worth bearing in mind that these families are there illegally so whilst the optics don't look good I don't think America has an obligation to roll out the red carpet to criminals




It would be a lot better to let them in if they're unaccompanied minors. 
 
In the UK unaccompanied minors are given immigration status until they're 18, foster care, healthcare, education etc. Most children don't want to leave their country and family, they're leaving because they're in a desperately shit situation and often their lives are at risk.
 
If you think it's better to just turn them away at the border than then that's pretty fucked up in my eyes. 
 
I really struggle to understand the lack of compassion with immigration at the moment. The assumption that they are all criminals and terrorists is the most retarded argument. 
 
 
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:22:23 (permalink)
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Agreed. Some horrible statistic like 80% of women who cross the border illegally, have been raped. What do you think would happen to unaccompanied children? What life do you reckon lies ahead of them if they are allowed in unaccompanied?

This initiative was trying to tackle that issue rather than rejoice in the splitting up of families. It's also worth bearing in mind that these families are there illegally so whilst admittedly the optics don't look good I think America has a right to enforce its laws



How does splitting up families have any effect on unaccompanied children whatsoever you dullard?
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:25:57 (permalink)
How do you know who's genuine and who's not unless they are properly processed?

You big silly goose
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:26:38 (permalink)
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Agreed. Some horrible statistic like 80% of women who cross the border illegally, have been raped. What do you think would happen to unaccompanied children? What life do you reckon lies ahead of them if they are allowed in unaccompanied?

This initiative was trying to tackle that issue rather than rejoice in the splitting up of families. It's also worth bearing in mind that these families are there illegally so whilst the optics don't look good I don't think America has an obligation to roll out the red carpet to criminals




It would be a lot better to let them in if they're unaccompanied minors. 
 
In the UK unaccompanied minors are given immigration status until they're 18, foster care, healthcare, education etc. Most children don't want to leave their country and family, they're leaving because they're in a desperately shit situation and often their lives are at risk.
 
If you think it's better to just turn them away at the border than then that's pretty fucked up in my eyes. 
 
I really struggle to understand the lack of compassion with immigration at the moment. The assumption that they are all criminals and terrorists is the most retarded argument. 
 
 


What do you think of NGO’s towing rafts of predominantly economic migrants from just off the coast of Libya hundreds of miles into Europe?

This market is funding terrorism, rape, human slavery, human trafficking and causing hundreds to drown at sea.

It’s a disaster that is only going to get many times worse with population growth and climate change projections in the next 50 years.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:27:13 (permalink)
You just answered my question with a question of no relevance at all.  Well done.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:29:58 (permalink)
well, if you're concerned about child rape one ICE guard at a detention centre has already been arrested for that, due to the unrecorded way children have been separated with no oversight. the administration don't know how many children they have, or where they are or their parents are. when you get arrested you get given a docket for your possessions, but here people are being given nothing too say they had a child, in many cases told their child was going off to get bathed.
 
and let's not pretend like trump doesn't demonise immigrants. If he merely said on economic grounds they can't let anyone in then so be it. but he is casting them either and infestation or a horde of the worst criminals, which is not true (many are fleeing the violence), and undermining the rule of law in pursusing his abusive policy.
 
i'm not sure good one can read, or at least bothers to before farting out more nonsense.
 
edit: of course, if he wanted to do away with illegal immigration deporting veterans, kids who've lived in the US almost their  whole lives and so on is not the way to do it. one easy way to would be to target the use of illegal labour in everything from construction and agriculture to abatoirs and meat packing. but that benefits rich corporations, their shareholders and business, so he's absolutely fine with it.
 
but yeah, build a wall, that'll work.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:31:54 (permalink)
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How do you know who's genuine and who's not unless they are properly processed?

You big silly goose



no one is being properly processed. that's part of the problem.

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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:32:40 (permalink)
It was a rhetorical question you idiot (wagwan)

Of course people coming in need to be assessed and checked to see if they have a genuine asylum claim. The cages are temporary until they were reunited with the family and moved to perfectly humane accommodation
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:36:17 (permalink)
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Goodone
How do you know who's genuine and who's not unless they are properly processed?

You big silly goose



no one is being properly processed. that's part of the problem.


What do you mean by processed? Not let in? If they're there illegally what's the problem ?
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:41:51 (permalink)
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How do you know who's genuine and who's not unless they are properly processed?

You big silly goose



no one is being properly processed. that's part of the problem.


What do you mean by processed? Not let in? If they're there illegally what's the problem ?



people who are following the correct asylum process are having their children separated from them with zero oversight, no word on where their kids are going and not even a piece of paper to say they even had kids with them. the administration has "lost" over a thousand children, with few records of who or where they are. we're talking kids under 3 years old, even babies.
 
even if they were there illegally this would be a problem.
 
it's so indefensible even sarah sanders welled up during a press conference this week, and trump has backtracked.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:47:05 (permalink)
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The cages are temporary until they were reunited with the family and moved to perfectly humane accommodation



 
You just managed to entirely make this up yourself.
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Re: American presidential election 2018/06/26 13:48:00 (permalink)
To be honest many of you were saying the same thing about those “unaccompanied minors” at Sangatte and how it was a matter of national shame that we weren’t letting them in.

It wasn’t long after we relented of course until one of the poor lambs tried to blow up the District Line during rush hour. To me, letting people die on their morning commute to satiate the virtue hunger and crocodile tears of Lily Allen et al would be a matter of national shame.

There’s a balance to be struck between naive misty eyed idealism and swivel eyed xenophobia.
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