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Re: American presidential election 2017/10/31 21:16:53 (permalink)
Manafort is 68 years old on serious federal charges. Unless he wants to spend the twilight of his life in a federal prison, you'd expect him to follow the Papadopolous example.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/02 15:39:08 (permalink)
Mercer (the money behind Breitbart, Cambridge Analyltica and Trump) has stood down from his hedge fund and washed his hands of Milo and Breitbart News.

Wonder if he's had enough bad publicity or if he's feeling the heat from this Russia probe.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/02 15:47:42 (permalink)
Selling his stake in Breitbart to his daughter
 
Maybe he's ill?
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/02 15:49:15 (permalink)
Doesn't seem like it if you read his statement in full. He's carrying on as a researcher and not retiring.

That Buzzfeed exposé of Breitbart and Milo may have been the final nail in the coffin, the timeline fits.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/02 15:55:48 (permalink)
Surely he's been well aware of that gangs unsavoury connections and activity. 
 
Maybe it's less him having enough and more pressure from other shareholders in his hedge fund?
 
 
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/02 16:07:03 (permalink)
Loam
Trumps tweets the last week or so read like they were written by a man who know's there's some serious shit coming his way.



I've been barely able to keep up with all of this recently, examples plz 
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/02 20:02:51 (permalink)
Sessions is now under pressure for not declaring to the House Investigation that Papadopolous had suggested a meeting with Putin, which he shot down. He said there was no collusion with the campaign at all.
 
Trump could now theoretically fire Sessions and appoint a new Attorney General who isn't recused from the Russia investigation who could kibosh Mueller's probe. Would be far more intelligent than firing Mueller which would probably precipitate impeachment proceedings.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/04 04:20:20 (permalink)
This is a truly depressing read, and puts into words why I'm really not getting excited about the Meuller case. It won't matter
 
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16588964/america-epistemic-crisis
 

There is no longer any settling such arguments. The only way to settle any argument is for both sides to be committed, at least to some degree, to shared standards of evidence and accuracy, and to place a measure of shared trust in institutions meant to vouchsafe evidence and accuracy. Without that basic agreement, without common arbiters, there can be no end to dispute.If one side rejects the epistemic authority of society’s core institutions and practices, there’s just nothing left to be done. Truth cannot speak for itself, like the voice of God from above. It can only speak through human institutions and practices.

 
Trump will pardon everyone, including himself. 
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/05 22:36:35 (permalink)
A lot of this Antifa violence stuff was completely made up by the right
https://www.buzzfeed.com/...-of-an-upcoming-antifa
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/06 00:26:50 (permalink)
Then he would be instantly impeached. Nixon was advised that he couldn't pardon himself.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/06 01:41:35 (permalink)

Then he would be instantly impeached

How can you be sure about that? You're still relying on the Reps and GOP afaik.
 
The world is completely different to when Nixon was impeached. 
SW14
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/06 10:26:53 (permalink)
He could in theory pardon those around him but flagrantly obstructing justice would be the end of him.

The GOP senate and congress don't particularly like him and even a loyalist like Lyndsey Graham said that removing Mueller would precipitate impeachment proceedings. There would be a point where protecting him is too politically toxic. They've got their Supreme Court appointment, they're not going to jeopardise power for a generation by sticking with someone who they don't like anyway taking the piss out of the rule of law for his own corrupt ends.


Mass pardons of an ongoing investigation involving him is even more cynical and would at the very least render him politically dead and likely be the cause of his removal from office.
post edited by SW14 - 2017/11/06 10:31:04
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/13 22:33:42 (permalink)
Trump Jr in cahoots with Wikileaks, suspected to be compromised by Russian intelligence.

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/545738/
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 01:09:40 (permalink)
Not remotely surprising, wikileaks have been pretty blatantly pro russian, anti democrat for ages
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 03:22:33 (permalink)
From reddit:
 
It is the third reason, though, Wikileaks wrote, that “is the real kicker.” “If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,” Wikileaks explained. “That means that the vast amount of stuff that we are publishing on Clinton will have much higher impact, because it won’t be perceived as coming from a ‘pro-Trump’ ‘pro-Russia’ source.” It then provided an email address and link where the Trump campaign could send the tax returns, and adds, “The same for any other negative stuff (documents, recordings) that you think has a decent chance of coming out. Let us put it out.
It's sad how easily they were able to manipulate so many people.
Wikileaks has linked directly to the alt-right sub The_Donald a couple of times.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/786650357468454912
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wikileaks-latest-find-is-a-conspiracy-theory-from-trumps-subreddit
They promoted their conspiracy theories about Seth Rich and Pizzagate.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/24/15685560/seth-rich-conspiracy-theory-explained-fox-news-hannity
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-seth-richs-parents-stop-politicizing-our-sons-murder/2017/05/23/164cf4dc-3fee-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/04/no-john-podesta-didnt-drink-bodily-fluids-at-a-secret-satanist-dinner/
They claimed that all their critics were globalist Jews. After getting called out for it, they deleted the Tweet and blamed "Clinton Hacks."
https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/757009629700300800
https://archive.is/5g8LF
https://twitter.com/AnshelPfeffer/status/757000232647401472
They were straight up selling Clinton dicking bimbos t-shirts for a while.
https://twitter.com/WikiLeaksShop/status/786618818919411712
https://www.salon.com/2016/10/14/bill-clinton-bimbo-poll-wikileaks-merchandise-shows-the-websites-real-bias/
They defended Russia when the Panama Papers came out.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/06/wikileaks-goes-full-kremlin-accuses-us-and-soros-of-funding-putin-panama-papers-leak/
Not to mention Assange claimed he would be in America by now.
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/819630102787059713
And when directly asked about whether they colluded with the Trump camp during an AMA they had this to say.
The allegations that we have colluded with Trump, or any other candidate for that matter, or with Russia, are just groundless and false.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c8u9l/we_are_the_wikileaks_staff_despite_our_editor/d9up6ox/
I fear that even now with this blatant proof people will still double down on the ignorance.
Edit: Since people are asking for sources, I went ahead and redid this comment completely.
 
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 13:52:25 (permalink)

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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 13:58:01 (permalink)
wonder what Trump is refering to here :-
 
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/930320191699017730
 
 
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 14:19:23 (permalink)
Stoopid_Fux
wonder what Trump is refering to here :-
 
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/930320191699017730
 
 




 
Something dark. He doesn't do nice statements


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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 15:18:54 (permalink)
Hmmmm, hadn't seen that. That's interesting. What we thinking?
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 15:48:54 (permalink)
Hope it's not Korea. Or Iran. 


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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 16:04:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Subsurface 2017/11/15 13:31:21
He'll just be announcing a massive unflushable shit he had on air force one
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 16:05:30 (permalink)
Jungle Dave
Hope it's not Korea. Or Iran. 




His own Nixonian style resignation?
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 16:10:40 (permalink)
whatever it is he'll manage to big himself up relentlessly throughout. it won't be a massive revelation imo. he's done this before, he just enjoys having people hanging in his every word.

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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 16:30:24 (permalink)
wiseacre
whatever it is he'll manage to big himself up relentlessly throughout. it won't be a massive revelation imo. he's done this before, he just enjoys having people hanging in his every word.




Was thinking this. 

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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 16:38:15 (permalink)
A Trump Tower in Manila and a Golf resort in the suburbs
 
Its going to be the best in the whole of their country, its going to be beautiful
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 16:44:21 (permalink)
it's going to be some LOCK HER UP BUTTERY MALES Clinton investigation isn't it?

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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 16:48:51 (permalink)
CROOKED HILLARY
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/14 18:26:11 (permalink)
when does he get back, i'm hyped . he is god status troll tho
 
 
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/15 00:40:38 (permalink)
I predict Trump will announce a special prosecutor into Hillary Clinton and the uranium one deal. Proper diversion tactics.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/11/15 12:16:10 (permalink)
 
yeah, trump using his power to pursue political grudges. but even fox have gone back on the uranium one "controversy": 
 
http://theweek.com/speedreads/737463/fox-news-anchor-methodically-demolishes-clintonuranium-conspiracy-popular-fox-news
 
 edit: only some fox pundits. hannity is still as deranged as ever. he gave this rpesentation last night (obvs not charlie from iasip)
 

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