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Whiskey_Bill
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/08 14:36:33 (permalink)
Duderonomy
Wait - why would Como even announce that he had found incriminating emails, if he never intended to harm Hilary's election? You just wouldn't make the announcement! That makes no sense LOL.

You act like he held a press conference and screamed it from the rooftops.
He wrote nothing about incriminating emails. Only that the investigation was ongoing.
The reality is it was a written announcement sent to all members of congress.
http://www.newyorker.com/...omeys-october-surprise
 
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Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/08 14:45:09 (permalink)
I'm not going to lie, I need to read more, and maybe use a pencil and some paper to work out who is supposed to be lying for who's benefit.
On the one hand the FBI announced just days before the election that they were investigating Hilary - sounds like GOP bias.
On the other, they found nothing, or worse simply re-read old documents which you suggest means they were trying to help Hilary.
Call me a bluff old cynic, but I don't see how this conspiracy goes in two directions at once. The FBI definitely harmed Hilary with the timing of the announcement.
I could believe that the FBI is actually quite independent and likes to stir shit to justify earning a coin, spread influence, and generally know what everyone is doing, but I'm not so ready to understand why investigating any possible links with Russia isn't a massive part of their job that they should be doing with or without the Presidents consent.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/08 14:46:48 (permalink)
Whiskey_Bill
Duderonomy
Wait - why would Como even announce that he had found incriminating emails, if he never intended to harm Hilary's election? You just wouldn't make the announcement! That makes no sense LOL.

You act like he held a press conference and screamed it from the rooftops.
He wrote nothing about incriminating emails. Only that the investigation was ongoing.
The reality is it was a written announcement sent to all members of congress.
http://www.newyorker.com/...omeys-october-surprise
 


So it was a conspiracy of the MSM to publicize this, and it was the MSM that wanted to sabotage Hilary's campaign?
But I thought the media hates Trump?
Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/08 14:58:12 (permalink)
Reading that article only tells me that nothing is black and white. It looks like no intention behind Como's actions, but they were seized on by the GOP. Turns out nothing that inflammatory against Hilary herself, but the media machine overhypes everything for ratings and turned it into a massive deal when it wasn't. That suggests that the MSM is as masterless as the FBI, but the consequences of its actions can appear, depending on your perspective, to favor one argument or another.
I still think there's more suspicion about "re-announcing" an investigation that never finished 6 days before the election, but I know, I haven't opened my eyes yet.
Whiskey_Bill
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/08 14:59:01 (permalink)
Chaffetz jumped on the story feeding it to Fox News who ran it. Trump's campaign wasted no time piling on.
Comey originally had announced in July about the whole private server thing. Like I said, his hand was forced by the weiner laptop discovery leading to the announcement that the investigation was ongoing in October.
 
Fox News is pro-republican to an extent, and prior to his being elected only about half of their shows ran pro-trump stuff. Megyn Kelly was taking the hatchet to him every chance she got.
 
The IC should be investigating foreign influence in candidates, I agree. It's when they use those investigations to attack Trump's adminstration  (flynn, paul manafort) for stuff unrelated to the initial scope of the warrant that I have an issue.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/flashback-first-fisa-request-trump-tower-came-clinton-ag-lynch-met-privately-tarmac/
 
Also, nobody had a problem with the Clinton Foundations obvious influence peddling, why the whole russian angle?
Oh wait.

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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/08 16:53:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby _ICE_ 2017/03/08 17:14:24

 
This applies to a lot of your tech as well lol
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/11 22:39:17 (permalink)

SW14
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/12 06:43:58 (permalink)
Urgh. She's vile.

Saw her tweeting extolling the virtues of Saudi Arabia's feminism.

Wish she would fuck off there.

It might be her choice but it isn't a choice in Islamic shitholes where women get locked up for going without one.

" Linda Sarsour ✔@lsarsour
@LaRebelleFleur shariah law is reasonable and once u read into the details it makes a lot of sense. People just know the basics
7:11 PM - 22 Sep 2011
63 63 Retweets 23 23 likes"

Yep. Stoning women to death for adultery, killing apostates, throwing homosexuals off buildings and dismembering people for theft is definitely reasonable.

Shariah apologist, fake feminist and leftie icon.
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Whiskey_Bill
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/12 07:49:05 (permalink)
It's a huge troll. Mia Khalifa is a porn star. Thought you'd clock the Brazzers University bit.
Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/17 13:34:55 (permalink)
 
Still no proof of any wire-tapping, far more proof that Trump needs to stop listening to wingnut shock-jocks and stop talking shit. The GOP have looked suitably mortified at this, and most people are now either charitably viewing it as mind-numbingly stupid on the part of President Fake Tan, or as a deliberate attempt to draw attention away from other, colder, stories...
 
:popcorn:
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/18 11:00:58 (permalink)
I liken his current situation to trying not to give off a tell that he has a monster hand. They are probing for information so they can plan out damage control but he is stonewalling.
 
I don't get your hate level for the man, not sure what he's done to you to irk you so.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/18 11:32:46 (permalink)
Fucking lol @ monster hand.  He's bluffing with his cards face up on the table not even in his tiny hands.
Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/19 13:07:50 (permalink)
Whiskey_Bill

I don't get your hate level for the man, not sure what he's done to you to irk you so.


Use your imagination.

Even if I ignored his stance on climate change, the guy is an odious creep, a school bully, and a gigantic phony in every way you can measure him.

I also understand how this filters through to Republican voters: they know the whole world always hates their guy, and it only increases their parochial disregard for the RotW. I think many enjoy being despised as it reinforces their twisted, ignorant world view based on ignorance and blind prejudice which is why they're so resistant to facts. So they look even more retarded, get mocked, and they just burrow their heads deeper into the sand.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/19 13:21:34 (permalink)
Trump was apolitical for many years and was very cozy with a lot of Democrats in the 80s and 90s.
 
You're just another brainwashed fool that is parrotting opinions. You are also projecting extremely hard in this last post.
Please tell me more about the Republican voter's "twisted, ignorant world view" and which "facts" they are resistant to.
The meek will never inherit the earth. Just because you yourself are a pussy beta does not mean that alpha male characteristics are worthy of scorn from the rest of us. It's too bad that you would rather spew regurgitated vitriol over improve your life and worldview. You probably think Russia invaded Donbass too.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/20 09:41:53 (permalink)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/08/donald-trumps-doubling-down-on-the-central-park-five-reflects-a-bigger-problem/?utm_term=.be523e707362
 
The kind of bloke that would continue to demand the execution of people proven innocent in a court of law to save his own pathetic orange face. Goes back to 1989
 
 


wiseacre
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/20 09:54:09 (permalink)
what's not to like about donald trump!

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SW14
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/20 10:13:01 (permalink)
William, you are sounding very 4chan again.
 
"Our extreme political views are alpha and everyone else is beta."
 
Let's be honest, the users of 4chan tend to be sad alt-right geeks sitting in a basement of their mum's gaff, not the striding alpha males they apparently believe themselves to be.
 
 
Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/20 11:16:40 (permalink)
As a generalization, but still factual, which means based on empirical evidence, people who identify with right wing politics tend to be stupider than those who don't. So the media, academia, scientists, musicians, artists, yes, they are all part of a left wing conspiracy to not be fucking retards.


Edit: really not sure if you're being sarcastic or trolling asking what people have against Trump.
I began his Presidency open to the idea that there's been too much left elitism that should be corrected, but already lost patience with the numbskull and those who defend him.
post edited by Duderonomy - 2017/03/20 13:12:27
Whiskey_Bill
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/20 22:35:56 (permalink)
Trump is far more libertarian than authoritarian, many of his cues have been consulted by the Pauls.
 
There are extremists on both sides but I don't recall over the last election cycle any Republican groups rioting in the streets and chanting death to cops. A factual generalization based on empirical evidence eh? Sounds like prejudice to me. Post-modernism and cultural marxism has pervades the education world both here and in the States and it is one of the most divisive forces in our culture today. No classical liberal should agree with these illogical, destructive views.
 
That Washington Post article is another campaign smear job by Bezos. We all grew up in an era of responsible journalism where our national broadcasters had the highest standards in the world for indepth reporting.
That's out the window now, now stories are contrived to fit a predetermined narrative. Did Trump take out those ads, yeah he did. New York was a cesspool in the late 80s. Bringing up something miniscule and obscure from 30 years ago only makes him look better when you see what Hill-shill was doing at the same time.
 
I'd say most 4chan users are typical autists. High-intelligence, low social skills and likely not much to look at.
Perfect soldiers for the meme wars to come.
 
 
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/24 19:33:40 (permalink)
SW14
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/25 20:32:59 (permalink)
Trump is having a horrific time at the moment.

Bungled everything to date so far. Doesn't seem to understand the machinations of US government. Very damaging for a supposed dealmaker to be unacceptable to close house Republicans on their hated Obamacare.

Anyone notice the difference in Western media when the coalition kills 100 civilians to the way Russian bombing of Aleppo was presented?
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/26 17:08:36 (permalink)
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/26 18:50:30 (permalink)
Whiskey_Bill
Trump was apolitical for many years and was very cozy with a lot of Democrats in the 80s and 90s.
 
You're just another brainwashed fool that is parrotting opinions. You are also projecting extremely hard in this last post.
Please tell me more about the Republican voter's "twisted, ignorant world view" and which "facts" they are resistant to.
The meek will never inherit the earth. Just because you yourself are a pussy beta does not mean that alpha male characteristics are worthy of scorn from the rest of us. It's too bad that you would rather spew regurgitated vitriol over improve your life and worldview. You probably think Russia invaded Donbass too.


I can't think of anything less alpha male than trying to big yourself up as one. 
 
Coming from this clown it's hardly surprising however.
wiseacre
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/27 08:51:18 (permalink)
- Please tell me more about the Republican voter's "twisted, ignorant world view" and which "facts" they are resistant to.
 
not an isolated case:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-voter-helen-wife-mexican-husband-roberto-beristain-deported-illegal-immigrant-ice-a7648806.html
 
Donald Trump supporter thought he would only deport 'bad hombres' but now her Mexican husband has been asked to leave US Roberto Beristain's family says he has a work permit and a social security card, while his restaurant provides income for 20 families.
 
and then there's this classic:

 
- Just because you yourself are a pussy beta does not mean that alpha male characteristics are worthy of scorn from the rest of us.
 
alpha behaviour like this laughable shit?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-angela-merkel-nato-bill-defence-ignore-usa-germany-spending-a7650636.html
Donald Trump printed out made-up £300bn Nato invoice and handed it to Angela Merkel
President estimated Germany’s underspend on alliance over the past 12 years, then added interest.
 
Seems trump doesn't understand how nato works. I imagine Merkel's response was "I see you have time, paper and some imagination". 
 
- You probably think Russia invaded Donbass too.
 
Yep: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/vladimir-putin-admits-russian-military-presence-ukraine
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11506774/Separatist-fighter-admits-Russian-tanks-troops-decisive-in-eastern-Ukraine-battles.html
 
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_in_Ukraine_(2014%E2%80%93present)
 
 

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SW14
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/27 09:42:23 (permalink)
Trump has a point about NATO, although that is a pathetic, amateurish stunt.
 
Germany has a budget surplus yet spends only about half of the NATO target. The US has a right to pull them up, but not in that way.
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/27 09:54:51 (permalink)
hmm, i wonder why germany doesn't spend so much money on defence? i wonder what historical events could have fostered that attitude?
 
besides, this was all settled a few years ago:
 
http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN06981
 
Allies agreed to reverse the trend of declining defence budgets and aim towards the NATO guideline of spending 2% of GDP on defence expenditure within a decade.
 
 
Nevermind that trump has pledged to increase US defence spending by 10%. where for, no one knows.
 
there is also the question that, if trump is all chummy with russia (as he has repeatedly stated), why does NATO need more money? 
 
and it's not like the US doesn't get a huge amount out of it - bases all over europe for one.

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Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/28 04:54:49 (permalink)
Why did "billionaire" Trump need to borrow 300 million dollars from Deutschbank, who are implicated in laundering money from Russian criminals?
Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/28 04:56:24 (permalink)
Why was Trump, or WhiskeyBill, quoting "fake news" NY Times for non-existent proof of a wire-tap claim the GOP admits is bullshit?
Duderonomy
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/28 05:01:46 (permalink)
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/science-knowledge-has-almost-no-effect-on-republican-beliefs-according-to-survey/
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Re: American presidential election 2017/03/28 09:22:19 (permalink)
Whiskey_Bill
 Just because you yourself are a pussy beta does not mean that alpha male characteristics are worthy of scorn from the rest of us. 



Alpha male = having a lucrative job working in subway, and being so dominant and alpha that you get sacked for insulting a customer and dashing water over them.
 
Mind if I call you Daryush V?
 

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