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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/18 16:05:56 (permalink)
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If anyone's interested, a couple of our recent tunes on our last podcast. 
 
Survivalist: https://soundcloud.com/repertoiresound/repertoire-podcast-003#t=17:50 
Our bash at a more contemporary jump up jungle track. Just a bit of fun. Early days but it's been tentatively signed to a new vinyl label.
 
Euclid: https://soundcloud.com/repertoiresound/repertoire-podcast-003#t=42:20 
Much darker half time thing.
 



I don't think we should be allowed to post genuinely good tunes in this thread lol
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/18 16:09:39 (permalink)
Yeah those are really good Law.
 
I don't get any bonus points re. Euclid 
 
FM8 is good, I was able to get something roughly similar. I think the really hard bit with trying to re-create samples in a synth is how to configure it so the higher notes are shorter but still sound right, or when you're trying to re-create glitches that have happened from warping or re-pitching.
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/18 16:14:45 (permalink)
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I don't get any bonus points re. Euclid 




It's a pretty nerdy ask tbh
 
Anyone do any kind of mastering on their own tracks? Or even just a bit of post production so tunes sit nicely in a mix? Something we've been struggling with.
 
I've tried http://landr.com/ and got some decent results, but it still doesnt sound "modern day D&B loud".
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/18 18:16:50 (permalink)
Is it because it's a prime cut

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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 10:14:49 (permalink)
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I don't get any bonus points re. Euclid 




It's a pretty nerdy ask tbh
 
Anyone do any kind of mastering on their own tracks? Or even just a bit of post production so tunes sit nicely in a mix? Something we've been struggling with.
 
I've tried http://landr.com/ and got some decent results, but it still doesnt sound "modern day D&B loud".




I make music for a living and sound design for commercials. The key is to mix as you go along; if it doesn't sound good when you put it in, it's not going to magically sound good post-production. Good starting sounds are of the utmost importance. My best advice would be to get a bunch of plug-ins you're happy with and set up a template - each channel having it's own bespoke (ugh) purpose - not only will this sculpt a consistent sound but it will increase the speed of your workflow.
 
After each EP, my co-producer and I spend a month purely building a library of sounds for the next one. Boring but neccessary if you want to take it seriously. If anyone has any questions or anything they'd like me to recommend I'd be happy to do so.
 
 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 10:18:17 (permalink)
Nice one Malc!
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 10:30:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Duderonomy 2016/09/05 20:47:41
So stop using youtube rips basically Law.
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 10:49:50 (permalink)
No
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 10:56:56 (permalink)
I'm glad we had this chat.
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 11:02:10 (permalink)
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I make music for a living and sound design for commercials. The key is to mix as you go along; if it doesn't sound good when you put it in, it's not going to magically sound good post-production. Good starting sounds are of the utmost importance. My best advice would be to get a bunch of plug-ins you're happy with and set up a template - each channel having it's own bespoke (ugh) purpose - not only will this sculpt a consistent sound but it will increase the speed of your workflow.
 
After each EP, my co-producer and I spend a month purely building a library of sounds for the next one. Boring but neccessary if you want to take it seriously. If anyone has any questions or anything they'd like me to recommend I'd be happy to do so.
 




Good advice, the building sounds bit is the tedious part.
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"I don't rap for dead presidents, I'd rather see the president dead, It's never been said, But I set precedents and the standards, and they can't stand it.."
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 11:43:35 (permalink)
I was going to post what Malcolm put but I've never finished a track so I thought it might be a bit 'blind leading the blind'.

But I agree, most engineering needs to be done at mixing stage, because you can't sidechain a snare with your pads at mastering stage.

If I was struggling I'd basically bounce everything to stems, work out which parts hit the meters, then wherever I can reduce volume without destroying the character I would. Might help to put a high pass or low pass filter on the channel / master while listening so its clearer to the ear what is going on.

Of course the reality is I just stick Ozone on the master and turn it up until the waveform looks like a solid square block.

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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 11:46:40 (permalink)
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Of course the reality is I just stick Ozone on the master and turn it up until the waveform looks like a solid square block.



lol now you're talking my language 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 12:05:45 (permalink)
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Of course the reality is I just stick Ozone on the master and turn it up until the waveform looks like a solid square block.



lol now you're talking my language 




Bish, bash, bosh, that'll do. *Check the level meter to make sure it's nearly redlining, good.*

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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 12:08:07 (permalink)

 
Legend! 

The way he stumbles around Cubase reminds me of how I work. He gets the vibe though, and that's what it's all about really innit. 
 
Funny bloke too 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 13:00:18 (permalink)
Forget the concept of phase, it's "because a computer does everything with numbers"  Legend

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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 13:18:00 (permalink)
lol he's a legend.
 
I love the way these guys just make tunes, no fucks given, 7/8 elements, butter it up with effects and roll out a vibe.
 
That's the best way.

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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 13:36:52 (permalink)
man needs a bigger monitor.
 
a good mate of mine made that vid. hth.

no
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/19 13:37:52 (permalink)
The Clipz studio session though... that was one of the greatest tutorials ever. 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/23 21:48:28 (permalink)
Want this
 


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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 15:50:05 (permalink)
I tried to download fruityloops. My laptop is now riddled with all sorts. After years of watching utter filth and getting nothing, an afternoon trying to become the new Tiesto has fucking ruined my laptop. Just cant get rid of these stupid fucking pop ups.
 
And no fruityloops 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 16:20:06 (permalink)
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I tried to download fruityloops. My laptop is now riddled with all sorts. After years of watching utter filth and getting nothing, an afternoon trying to become the new Tiesto has fucking ruined my laptop. Just cant get rid of these stupid fucking pop ups.
 
And no fruityloops 




That made me lol.

"I don't rap for dead presidents, I'd rather see the president dead, It's never been said, But I set precedents and the standards, and they can't stand it.."
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 16:27:59 (permalink)
Any idea where I can get a copy of it that isnt going to ruin whats left of my laptop?
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 18:06:53 (permalink)
Audionews.org is an absolutely incredible torrent site for DAW software, VST plugins, effects, patches, etc. - probably the biggest and most comprehensive one out there.  
 
Invite only though and it's fucking hard work to get an invite... 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 18:36:55 (permalink)
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DAW software, VST plugins, effects, patches, etc.




 
Ive literally no idea what any of those are. 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 18:39:38 (permalink)
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DAW software, VST plugins, effects, patches, etc.




 
Ive literally no idea what any of those are. 




Fruityloops is a DAW (digital audio workstation). VST plugins are basically third party synths that will work within Fruityloops (so you're not restricted to FL's own synths / drum-machines only). Effects are things like reverb, delay, compression, etc. Patches are pre-made sounds for synths, drum-machines, etc. 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 18:42:21 (permalink)
Oh yeah, I know what all this is. Ive got a mate whose made a fair few big hardcore and house tunes. I used to sit in his studio for hours getting off my tits. Gutted I wasted that time now.
 
Are you on that Audionews.org? Any chance of an invite?
 
 
 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 18:44:54 (permalink)
Rudiger01
Are you on that Audionews.org? Any chance of an invite?

 
Sure, why not. PM me your email address and I'll send it over. 
 
I've had 2 invites sitting there for years.
 
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/24 18:46:56 (permalink)
Sent
 
Ta la
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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/30 15:38:11 (permalink)

 
Looks fun

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Re: Production Thread (for old men) 2016/08/30 15:42:31 (permalink)
^ near the end. That's exactly how it sounds when you have your ears syringed 
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