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Re: Star Wars 2017/12/28 20:50:06 (permalink)
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I thought it was fucking great. Some bits didn't quite come off and they could and should have ditched the pointless casino planet diversion but on the whole it delivered everything you want from a Star Wars film. It was far better than Force Awakens IMO.
 
I loved how it echoed parts of the original trilogy without being so blunt heavy-handed with it like TFA was. Rey and Kylo going to meet Snoke was a clear nod to Luke, Vader and Palpatine but with some subtle shifting of the roles. Likewise Luke and Rey's training scenes were straight out of Dagobah.
 
People have moaned about the "comedy" bits and some of them did fall flat (Luke drinking from an alien's tit should never have got past the first cut) but there were a few that made me laugh. Luke's shoulder brush after being pounded with laser blasts was great.
 
The main thing that disappointed me about it was the ending. It felt rushed and anti-climactic. There was no epic duel or showdown, and Luke deserved to go out with more impact than just vanishing into thin air. We were teased a shot of his X-wing sunken underwater - what a missed opportunity to for him/Rey to raise it out of the sea and Luke strapping in to remind Poe that he was the original trigger happy flyboy.
 
Going to see it again this week. Has anyone seen it in 3D? Is it worth it or better to just go to another 2D screening (I would have to jump on a plane to get to an Imax venue).


It is decent in 3d... I was more in awe of the 3d and the way they used it in Force awakens though but it is still pretty good. Gonna watch it again in 2d in a couple days though.



I really liked it (the last one bored me to tears). Definitely worth watching it in 3D lots of flying things and I wanted to reach out and touch the ships. Bit odd how they trash the whole Jedi thing though, like it was one in the eye to their nerdy following. 
 
Was hoping for Ewoks but you can't have everything.
post edited by PapaJaro - 2017/12/28 20:51:08
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Re: Star Wars 2017/12/29 16:20:38 (permalink)
Watched it yesterday in 4DX and mostly enjoyed it. The humour was basically fine to me. I think people criticising the humour and most of the plot holes have rose tinted specs. Star Wars has always been children's fantasy.

Kylo Ren is decent but it feels like it has been too easily set up for his redemption (although I guess he will probably break down further before and during the next film). I was hoping Rey would turn but that was never going to happen.

The casino story and stutter guy was completely pointless and Finn/maRey4bbc is tedious. By far the worst thing was Leia's superman/Jesus effect, which was deus ex machina in the extreme, even for Star Wars. They should have never brought Carrie Fisher back anyway because her face was mutilated and she was barely able to speak English anymore.
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Re: Star Wars 2017/12/29 16:33:24 (permalink)
I'm not going to waste my money. I'll probably stream it out of morbid curiosity, but I already know it will take another hideous steaming shit all over the originals. And I know nothing about it.
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Re: Star Wars 2017/12/29 17:43:05 (permalink)
Yeah they should really have written Carrie Fisher's drug problem into the storyline. It was the elephant in the room really.
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Re: Star Wars 2017/12/29 19:12:24 (permalink)
4dx was the highlight of the experience tbh.
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Re: Star Wars 2017/12/29 19:47:39 (permalink)
Yeah I expected 4DX to be laughably shit but it was actually pretty enjoyable. It was a bit of a distraction at first but once I got used to it, I thought it it was pretty cool. Probably wouldn't have been so appropriate for something like Schindler's List but I'd definitely do it again with Star Wars or similar.
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Re: Star Wars 2017/12/29 20:16:36 (permalink)
Yeah I thought it added to the experience and it wasn't overdone to the point it ever became annoying. Not sure about the back impact though, just felt like someone kicking my chair lol. The motion and vibration was really good as was the water and air. The smell was just like some dodgy perfume rather than the intended burning smell. I'd love to see Fury Road with 4dx.
post edited by RAYZA - 2017/12/29 20:18:40
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/01 10:57:11 (permalink)
finally saw it the other day... flawed, but overall pretty good i thought. maybe not as strong as TFA or Rogue One, but i still enjoyed it a lot.
 
when the film's good, i think it's really good. and that's precisely every scene involving rey, luke and kylo ren. they are the three best characters, and together it feels like there's some interesting new ground being trodden. yes, there are notes of ESB and ROTJ, but i found it all pretty captivating. their performances are also excellent imo. i'm actually glad snoke was dispatched so easily, because he's much less interesting than kylo. i've seen some criticism for domhnall gleeson but i think his performance is perfectly sniffling and sneering
 
i enjoyed oscar isaac much more in this film too, and carrie fisher and laura dern did their thing as well. 
 
visually, it's also absolutely stunning. some of the shots are just works of art. the light speed smash through the dreadnaught especially. the salt planet with the red trails also made for some beautiful stuff
 
but... i think the middle section at the casino clearly doesn't really work. seemed just a fairly lazy variation on the 'quirky alien bar' trope, i'm not massively into that rose girl, and it's a real waste of benicio del toro. i also felt that a lot of the humour fell a bit flat. generally, i also thought that Finn's storyline didn't really go where i was hoping it would do. i thought he was excellent in TFA, and there's still huge potential for the character, but i thought he was a bit underused in this one unfortunately.
 
i can forgive a lot of this though. my only real main criticism is: i didn't leave the cinema needing to see the third film... which is kind of the main job of the second film in a trilogy. what feels set up for the third film is a bit too much of a black and white, good vs evil fight. i hope i'm wrong, and that finn is woven back into the main plot in an interesting way that makes use of his back story, but i just have a bit of a nagging feeling that they don't know quite how to end this new saga
 
4/5
 
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/01 11:55:47 (permalink)
I think Superman Leia is an instant 1 point deduction. That was easily the stupidest thing I have ever seen in a film ever.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/01 16:03:31 (permalink)
Yeah I think it is safe to say there isn't a person on the planet that didn't hate Leia flying. Looked shit and didn't add anything at all... They should have just made her hit her head or something
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/01 17:34:34 (permalink)
i preferred that to everything they did to Luke
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 14:35:19 (permalink)
First half was utter garbage.

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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 16:41:44 (permalink)
Only just got around to watching Rogue One. I've only seen the first third, but it's already been ruined by a full CGI Grand Moff Tarkin, wtf?
 

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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 17:13:30 (permalink)
Well it was either that or dangle Peter Cushing's rotten corpse from strings


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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 18:13:09 (permalink)
I thought they did an excellent job there tbh. Not as good as Rachel in Blade Runner, but still impressive.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 18:14:22 (permalink)
Syhr
Well it was either that or dangle Peter Cushing's rotten corpse from strings



Sounds preferable tbh.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 19:56:53 (permalink)
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I thought they did an excellent job there tbh. Not as good as Rachel in Blade Runner, but still impressive.


Agree. I thought it was spot on and didn’t ruin the look and feel of the film at all. Rogue One was just great all round for me.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 20:18:04 (permalink)
Thought Tarkin CGI was good... Leia too. 
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 20:54:05 (permalink)
I thought it was shocking. Looked like a computer game cut scene.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/02 20:56:56 (permalink)
no game has ever looked remotely close to that good and won't for a long time
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/04 12:00:24 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Grade 2018/01/09 04:15:55

 
lol
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 03:57:09 (permalink)
Razor
i preferred that to everything they did to Luke


"Rewatch The Empire Strikes Back and I think it's apparent that there was no other choice for Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi"
http://bigshinyrobot.com/...c-star-wars-last-jedi/
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 07:46:34 (permalink)
Another great article. Honestly the more I read and think about it the more I appreciate what Rian Johnson has done. There are some flaws no doubt, but there’s some very clever writing going on. He went in deep. It definitely has issues, but a lot of the common complaints made by some fans can be easily dismissed upon a little examination.

They say the best albums are the ones that you don’t like at first, and I think that could well be true here. Time will be kind to it. Can’t wait to own it at home.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 09:20:39 (permalink)
Agree with the Postman.
 
20 minutes of deleted scenes coming as Blu-ray extras apparently.


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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 09:41:14 (permalink)
Griff

 
lol


lololol fucking creasing

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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 11:24:05 (permalink)
Postman Pat
Another great article. Honestly the more I read and think about it the more I appreciate what Rian Johnson has done. There are some flaws no doubt, but there’s some very clever writing going on. He went in deep. It definitely has issues, but a lot of the common complaints made by some fans can be easily dismissed upon a little examination.

They say the best albums are the ones that you don’t like at first, and I think that could well be true here. Time will be kind to it. Can’t wait to own it at home.


Keep reaching lol.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 11:56:59 (permalink)
Razor
Postman Pat
Another great article. Honestly the more I read and think about it the more I appreciate what Rian Johnson has done. There are some flaws no doubt, but there’s some very clever writing going on. He went in deep. It definitely has issues, but a lot of the common complaints made by some fans can be easily dismissed upon a little examination.

They say the best albums are the ones that you don’t like at first, and I think that could well be true here. Time will be kind to it. Can’t wait to own it at home.


Keep reaching lol.



You'll like it eventually. In a years time you'll be in here having changed your mind. 
 
 
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 13:35:26 (permalink)
I doubt it lol. It will always be a fairly enjoyable movie but a rubbish Star Wars movie. This must be how people felt watching the prequels as adults, I loved them at the time but a films flaws are so much clearer as an adult.
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 14:42:15 (permalink)
We'll see, you have form lol
 
This is far far better than the prequels though m8. You say it's a rubbish Star Wars movie, and everyone is entitled to their opinion etc, so what's it missing?
 
I'm not saying that it's as good as the original trilogy at all, there's no recapturing the magic of the past especially when its intertwined with being a young kid, but if we are gonna have more Star Wars films then things are gonna have to evolve otherwise it's gonna get stale very very quickly. This movie does a great job of moving the story and the lore on, it tees it up nicely for the next instalment to be truly original. 
 
 
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Re: Star Wars 2018/01/09 15:19:33 (permalink)
Said all this already. He won't have a bar of it.... 
 
For me... The only bit I actually hated was Leia flying. It just seemed very shit and out of place. The casino bit is also something I wouldn't ever choose to sit through again too. 
 
Thought everything else was class..... taking a different direction with this was def something it needed I think but you are always going to run the risk of alienating people. 
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