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Whagwan
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 08:52:15 (permalink)
I spend a lot of time flying into and out of NI to drive to our factory in Donegal, we even have staff who live in Derry and drive 1hr to work in the Republic.
I've been saying for a while now that Brexit can't actually happen given the mutually intangible assurances made by May to the EU and the DUP which are.
1. No customs border or border infrastructure.
2. No regulatory non-alignment between NI and the UK as demanded by the DUP (apart from on abortions and gay marriage)
 
It seems this has now come to a head with the EU demanding NI stays in the customs union to satisfy condition 1.
The DUP will not accept any compromise to condition 2.
 
Therefore May and Brexit are fucked, and as predicted, kicking this issue into the long grass at the last deadline hasn't helped at all.
 
https://www.theguardian.c...t-after-brexit-eu-says
 

“There will be no wriggle room for the UK government,” said Philippe Lambert MEP, the leader of the Greens in the European parliament, who was briefed in Strasbourg earlier this week by the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier. “We are going to state exactly what we mean by regulatory alignment in the legal text. It will be very clear. This might cause some problems in the UK – but we didn’t create this mess.”
Barnier has repeatedly warned that Brexit, with the red-lines chosen by Theresa May, means barriers to trade in the form of checks at the border.
In Northern Ireland, the UK government’s contradictory position of seeking to leave the customs union and the single market and yet wanting frictionless trade is said to present not only a danger to trade but a risk to peace.

 
post edited by Whagwan - 2018/02/09 08:53:58
wiseacre
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 08:52:49 (permalink)
There might have to be one if more good news like this keeps emerging

https://uk.reuters.com/ar...continue-idUKKBN1FS2JD

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OEM
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 09:23:52 (permalink)
The Japs just fucking blew a massive hole in the stupid Tory rhetoric and posturing.

We pressed the self destruct button at the referendum. Shit just got real.gif


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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 09:37:56 (permalink)
Stoopid_Fux
The remainer Tory MP Anna Soubry was just on 'This Week'.. Again she was calling for 35 Tory MP's to be slung out the party and calling them not proper conservatives and so on. 
 

 
Fairplay she's tough as fuck. Gets so much shit and death threats etc from the brextards but she just keeps on doubling down. 
Mulla
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 11:10:49 (permalink)
Saw a lot of talk on Reddit about a possible CANZUK (ffs) freedom of movement arrangement. Seems to be getting a bit of momentum behind it. Someone posted up stats and apparently the other three countries are more in favour of it than the UK is.
wiseacre
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 11:15:59 (permalink)
yeah, reddit likes that sort of wet dream stuff. it was just some pressure group promoting itself, no actual government figures have said anything about it. oz & NZ already have freedom of movement, and the UK has a population greater than all of them combined.

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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 11:18:06 (permalink)
Yeah if anything Australia will be tightening it's borders, forrins are getting all the blame here.
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 11:32:10 (permalink)
Goodone
David Davis looks like he's aged about 10 years in the last 6 months lol


 
He is out of his depth - He's generally a decent guy and better than most Tories/Politicians but these are unprecedented talks on a global scale of which repercussions will be felt for generations...he ain't built for that.
 
Mulla
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 11:56:24 (permalink)
wiseacre
yeah, reddit likes that sort of wet dream stuff. it was just some pressure group promoting itself, no actual government figures have said anything about it. oz & NZ already have freedom of movement, and the UK has a population greater than all of them combined.




Ah gotcha. Wasn't sure who was behind it all. There were three or four threads about it last night, so wasn't sure if there was some new developments or something. 
OEM
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/09 23:38:29 (permalink)
KNUCKLES
Goodone
David Davis looks like he's aged about 10 years in the last 6 months lol

He is out of his depth - He's generally a decent guy and better than most Tories/Politicians but these are unprecedented talks on a global scale of which repercussions will be felt for generations...he ain't built for that.


You could easily include the entire front bench including the PM tbh.

While Cameron and Osborne were heartless, these cunts sitting in now are clueless.


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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/11 14:03:08 (permalink)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2018/feb/11/john-mcdonnell-better-a-general-election-than-a-second-brexit-referendum-video

Cynical. Let’s be honest, McDonnell doesn’t give a shit about Brexit. How would a general election help solve the EU question?

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell said that Labour would not seek to prevent or delay Brexit, labeling those trying to do so as being "on the side of certain corporate elites".
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/11 14:33:26 (permalink)
SW14
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2018/feb/11/john-mcdonnell-better-a-general-election-than-a-second-brexit-referendum-video

Cynical. Let’s be honest, McDonnell doesn’t give a shit about Brexit. How would a general election help solve the EU question?

Shadow chancellor John McDonnell said that Labour would not seek to prevent or delay Brexit, labeling those trying to do so as being "on the side of certain corporate elites".



It wouldnt as both him and corbyn and a few trade unions have always wanted nothing to do with the eu as a whole under the idea that immigration keeps wages down.

Even the rmt who have probably been the most striking union of late were part of a party that wanted to leave the eu.
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/12 07:56:41 (permalink)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/12/orban-allies-could-use-eu-as-cash-register-meps-say

Saux socialist, saux progressive

Duderonomy
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/12 08:58:07 (permalink)
darkmatter
https://www.theguardian.c...cash-register-meps-say

Saux socialist, saux progressive


You think when this is discovered in teh USA anything is done about it? Or the UK?
I’m pro-EU simply because it’s the only institution on earth that at least tries to curtail the power of big business (eg Apple taxation). When the UK leaves, it really will be the 52nd state of McUSA.
darkmatter
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/12 18:58:13 (permalink)
No, but I do think gutless just wants us to steal money off Portuguese peasants and give it to Hungarian oligarchs.

gutlessrhyme
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/14 11:57:51 (permalink)
No real substance in Boris' speech just now. Just spent the whole thing being charming and saying "come on guys, it's gonna be fine" in various ways. No detail, as always.
 
 
RUSSELL CLARTY
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Re: To Brexit or not to Brexit? 2018/02/14 13:07:51 (permalink)
Nice innuendo about sex tourism in Thailand from the fat Morlock


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