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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 19:55:02 (permalink)
The fastest growing evonomy in the G7 of major developed economies is impressive. As are the 1.5 million full time jobs that have been created under this government.

For the first time in my working life, it's a "candidate's market". There are opportunities, wages are now rising and we've gone from the sick man of Europe to an IMF case study on economic regeneration in a few short years.

Anyone who votes Labour and trusts Ed Balls with the economy is certifiably fucking insane.

It is time for a living wage to be introduced though, as the economy consolidates it's growth.
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 19:59:51 (permalink)
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Companies have no legal obligation to do anything to tax, except pay it.


No they have a legal obligation to make lots of nasty profits and by lobbying a reduction in Corp tax they are then going to increase their profits. Hence why they sign a letter doing supporting a party that will do so.



But they don't have a legal obligation to do that. They have an obligation to their share holders if they demand it, and if they fail they'll likely be fired, or more likely given a bigger bonus if they are a bank.
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:41:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby wiseacre 2015/04/01 22:29:40
A case study on economic regeneration?  You must be joking.
Our productivity has totally flat lined whilst employment rates have risen and the economy has started to show growth, we are currently have a productivity of 30% below Germany, France and the US.  This means a worker done in 3.5days the amount a British worker gets done in a week.  We are 17% behind the average of the G7.  Only Japan with it's recent history of decades of stagnation has a recorded wider gap. Traditionally productivity grows at 2% per year and ours hasn't grown in the past seven.
 
This recovery is built on two shams: The employment growth built on poorly trained and poorly rewarded 'flexible' cheap labour, and a housing bubble propping up the economy. 
 
 
Fuck it, have an article from the Torygraph.  http://www.telegraph.co.u...s-far-from-secure.html
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:43:28 (permalink)
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The fastest growing evonomy in the G7 of major developed economies is impressive. As are the 1.5 million full time jobs that have been created under this government.




Still though, it's the slowest recovery in a 100 years. Wages in real terms have lagged behind inflation until only recently, And the jobs created are in the private sector which are ofset to some degree by cuts and job losses within the public sector. Then there's the whole Zero Hours thing...
 
I gotta be honest I kind of like what I've been hearing from Labour recently. I think a reporter nailed it for me earlier on the news when they said that the tories were campaigning for the support of Business leaders whilst Labour are campaigning for the support of the shop-floor workers...
 
Labour are starting to sound like, y'know, Labour.
 
 
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:45:02 (permalink)
Thats why I have a growing begrudging fondness for Milliband. On the face of it a total goon, but with some actual substance and stands for decent values
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:50:05 (permalink)
Although it would be a cold day in hell before I voted Tory, I cannot bring myself to vote for anyone that couldn't expose this government for the venal society rapists they are within five fucking years.
 
Milliband, seriously? He'd paint his cock green and call it Albert if a focus group told him it would win him votes, and frankly he'd fuck that up by painting it red, calling it Jim and accidentally getting the brush stuck up his japseye

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:51:43 (permalink)
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Thats why I have a growing begrudging fondness for Milliband. On the face of it a total goon, but with some actual substance and stands for decent values




I've found myself warming to him too I have to admit  I kind of like his awkwardness in PR situations, reminds me that he's an actual person, and makes me think that deep-down he's proabably a well-intentioned, alright guy.
 
I just don't get that from robo-Cameron.

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:52:34 (permalink)
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Although it would be a cold day in hell before I voted Tory, I cannot bring myself to vote for anyone that couldn't expose this government for the venal society rapists they are within five fucking years.
 
Milliband, seriously? He'd paint his cock green and call it Albert if a focus group told him it would win him votes, and frankly he'd fuck that up by painting it red, calling it Jim and accidentally getting the brush stuck up his japseye




What makes you say that tho? Bacon-gate?
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:53:50 (permalink)
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Although it would be a cold day in hell before I voted Tory, I cannot bring myself to vote for anyone that couldn't expose this government for the venal society rapists they are within five fucking years.
 
Milliband, seriously? He'd paint his cock green and call it Albert if a focus group told him it would win him votes, and frankly he'd fuck that up by painting it red, calling it Jim and accidentally getting the brush stuck up his japseye






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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 20:59:50 (permalink)
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Although it would be a cold day in hell before I voted Tory, I cannot bring myself to vote for anyone that couldn't expose this government for the venal society rapists they are within five fucking years.
 
Milliband, seriously? He'd paint his cock green and call it Albert if a focus group told him it would win him votes, and frankly he'd fuck that up by painting it red, calling it Jim and accidentally getting the brush stuck up his japseye




What makes you say that tho? Bacon-gate?




 
Not just bacon gate, every other fucking gate you can possibly think of, every time the cunt leaves his house he does something embarrassing, from managing to make giving a few quid to a tramp akin to passing a kidney stone to answering fuck knows how many questions with a robotic stock answer, the guy is awkwardness personified and is astoundingly divorced from the reality that people these days are physically sick into their own mouths every time a politician of any stripe starts their rebuttal "Look..." or "Let's be completely frank here"- that he has let five whole years slip by when anyone who was prepared to call bullshit on the Tories and the preceding preening smug idiots that sold their tribe down the river could have won a landslide
 
 

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:04:37 (permalink)
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Milliband, seriously? He'd paint his cock green and call it Albert if a focus group told him it would win him votes, and frankly he'd fuck that up by painting it red, calling it Jim and accidentally getting the brush stuck up his japseye


LMFAO 
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:08:47 (permalink)

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:09:27 (permalink)
Genuinely struggling with the idea that milliband is more contrived than cameron and has less convictions.
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:11:44 (permalink)
Seriously? That ham-faced arsehole? Him that has pissed off /everybody/ including oldskool Tories?
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:16:27 (permalink)
It all boils down to people don't like the look of him. Superb
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:21:43 (permalink)
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Genuinely struggling with the idea that milliband is more contrived than cameron and has less convictions.



Cameron is far more comfortable with mendacity, he's a PR guy. He doesn't have the pressure of feeling conflicted. Ed's Dad was a Marxist intellectual FFS. Less convictions? I'd be surprised if Dave has had any convictions other than "how can I look good out of this and come out on top" his whole life, but that doesn't make Ed competent. 
 
He's had a rough run of it in the press, but fuck me we've all had a rough run of it since the crash and because he's incompetent and seemingly unable to give us a left wing alternative we are going to have to put up with more bullshit, more cuts, more lies, more destruction of public services. 
 
 

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:23:31 (permalink)
Shiverman
It all boils down to people don't like the look of him. Superb




Nah mate, it's cowardly dog whistle shit like this:
 


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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:25:14 (permalink)
Are any of the candidates aesthetically pleasing in any way?
 
 
If so I will pick that one. 
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:25:44 (permalink)

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:26:50 (permalink)
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Are any of the candidates aesthetically pleasing in any way?
 
 
If so I will pick that one. 




 
No

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:34:26 (permalink)
Fucking LOL @ Peter Duncan signing Labour's answer to the Tory business signatories today
 
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/01/labour-offers-counterpunch-to-daily-telegraph-business-letter
 
If they can get Derek Griffiths to sign it too, I'll vote for Milliband.
 
Until then I'm fucking having none of it

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:34:38 (permalink)
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It all boils down to people don't like the look of him. Superb




Nah mate, it's cowardly dog whistle shit like this:
 





Rather that than this tbh
 

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:40:01 (permalink)
How sad that Labour cannot see that providing a clear alternative to that mindset would be a good thing

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 21:45:19 (permalink)
The Labour party, fucking you in the arse like the Tories only with a friendly reach around, since 1997. 

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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 22:37:49 (permalink)
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A case study on economic regeneration?  You must be joking.
Our productivity has totally flat lined whilst employment rates have risen and the economy has started to show growth, we are currently have a productivity of 30% below Germany, France and the US.  This means a worker done in 3.5days the amount a British worker gets done in a week.  We are 17% behind the average of the G7.  Only Japan with it's recent history of decades of stagnation has a recorded wider gap. Traditionally productivity grows at 2% per year and ours hasn't grown in the past seven.
 
This recovery is built on two shams: The employment growth built on poorly trained and poorly rewarded 'flexible' cheap labour, and a housing bubble propping up the economy. 
 
 
Fuck it, have an article from the Torygraph.  http://www.telegraph.co.u...s-far-from-secure.html




 
Tell you what then, since we're playing this game. Have one back from the Guardian. Isn't in incredible that Whagwan with his common room socialism knows more than the head of the International Monetary Fund? 
 
 
The head of the International Monetary Fund has handed David Cameron a helpful pre-election gift, hailing the British economic recovery as “exactly the sort of result” she would like to see.
The prime minister warmly welcomed the remarks by the IMF’s managing director, Christine Lagarde, who said that Britain’s economic performance was providing “eloquent and convincing” leadership for the rest of the EU.
Her remarks, which were made during a round-table discussion about the global economy at the IMF in Washington, will be particularly sweet for George Osborne, who the IMF strongly criticised in 2013 over his deficit reduction plan. Its chief economist Olivier Blanchard said Osborne was “playing with fire”.
 
“Certainly from a global perspective this is exactly the sort of result that we would like to see … More growth, less unemployment, a growth that is more inclusive, that is better shared, and a growth that is also sustainable and more balanced.”

 
Even more incredible that France with it's ultra-productive workforce is stuck in a phase of stagnation and recession under the kind of socialist government you would no doubt love to inflict on us in this country while we have gone from strength to strength. In fact, we are on course to overtake them as the world's 6th largest economy pretty soon, with a smaller population. Not bad for a lot of lazy, unskilled bastards run by a bunch an evil Tory mafia who were all set to lacerate the economy in half with their evil cuts, is it?
 
And as for the zero hours contracts, 1.5 MILLION jobs created under this government were not zero hours contracts. And whilst I don't agree with them in some instances, you do understand that some people actually want to be on zero hours contracts, don't you? People like students? People who do a bit of casual work?
 
My company hires 30 actors for it's call centre on zero hours contracts so that they have flexibility to shoot/film, go to auditions and earn an income. And they find it a great help to them. 
post edited by SW14 - 2015/04/01 22:40:02
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 22:45:19 (permalink)
In a thick Lancashire accent:

"My grandparents voted labour, my parents voted labour, so I'm voting labour"

No clue on policies or personalities, just think Labour are for the working man. You shouldn't be aloud to vote if you don't know actual policies of the party your voting for.

I saw a journalist in the street on a news channel the other day asking people which party had a "long term economic plan" and which party would "freeze energy bills", most people didn't have a clue...

Deeeeeeeeench
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 22:49:05 (permalink)
Labour for the working man my arse.

Abolishing clause 4, opening the doors to mass and predominantly unskilled immigration/imported votes and cosying up to the City put paid to that. Miliband wanted to cut financial ties with the unions not long ago.

No one should be fooled into thinking New Labour are for the working man. They haven't been since John Smith.

Most of the electorate must surely have cottoned onto this by now. The Scots certainly have.
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 22:52:40 (permalink)
i have a genuine hate for Labour, for most of their cabinet too.

Dianne Abbot for PM..........

Deeeeeeeeench
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 23:01:47 (permalink)
I hope the Tories just use that smug note from their outgoing minister left along the lines of "there's no money left, enjoy" for their election advertising.

Those cunts were spunking 12 billion on scrapped NHS IT projects and flogging off our gold reserves when prices were at rock bottom whilst bragging they'd ended boom and bust economics.

It's no small wonder. Don't let them anywhere near this resurgent economy.

Banging on about the "squeezed middle" and then wanting to hike taxes for people earning over 40k, like that's a lot of money when you're supporting a family.

And don't forget the claim that lost public sector jobs/paid Labour votes could be made up in the private sector was "complete fantasy".

1.5 million full time jobs later....

Even the mess of Iraq and the emergence of ISIS can be traced to their dishonesty and incompetence. At least Cameron didn't make up lies that Assad had WMD's ready to attack us with when he wanted to get involved in Syria.

It amazes me that they could be anywhere near in the opinion polls.

Also, to the poster above, if Cameron has no principles then why did he expend so much political capital getting gay marriage through? That's not a vote winner nor did it endear him to elements of his own party.
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Re: General Election 2015 2015/04/01 23:06:17 (permalink)
I've just seen an advert from the TUC.

Workers on zero hours contracts earn on average £300 less per week than those on full time contracts.

How can that even be a thing?!?!

That's like saying "Part time workers earn on average less than full time workers"

What a ridiculous statement.

Deeeeeeeeench
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