if tech itch sold 800,000 -> 1m copies of 20 tunes he released when dnb was massive worldwide from 98->2003 on his own label, and you get £1.50 profit on each, after paying £1 press fee, distribution fee, and digital sleeve design,. that would give tech itch £20m + and not have to share the money with the engineer or label
dnb was a franchise during tekstep days
tech itch lived in bristol back then
Exactly, "If" - he didn't. Case closed.
sold that many on some of them
No he didn't. Have you not read anything in this thread. I managed the record company and distributor that funded his label through the time you mention. No one, and i mean NO ONE, was doing any kind of numbers anywhere near what you are suggesting. Just admit you are wrong and end it. No one has sold 800,000 - 1 million copies of a Drum & Bass tune ever, ever, EVER!! It never happened and never will.
this thread is about all you being oblivous to dnb was like during tekstep days and talking the same shit about jungle tunes
Ive worked in the D&B scene for over 20 years now. And have been listening to it for even longer. I was there from the start, the very start and really know what im talking about when it comes to pressing and sales figures.
unless your a londoner, then most of them listen to kool fm and live where the hood at, and know nothing about anything, and sales are weekly on 1 in the jungle shows etc and reaching 200k for no1 spot, when jump came along and most releases were jump sales went down to 70k and dnb started to die
Im literally gonna say this one more time, then im done, it's tiresome. NO DRUM & BASS TUNE, JUMP UP OR OTHERWISE WAS SELLING 200,000 COPIES AT THE TIME YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR ANY OTHER TIME. YOU ARE JUST PULLING FIGURES OUT OF THE AIR.
if tech itch sold 800,000 -> 1m copies of 20 tunes he released when dnb was massive worldwide from 98->2003 on his own label, and you get £1.50 profit on each, after paying £1 press fee, distribution fee, and digital sleeve design,. that would give tech itch £20m + and not have to share the money with the engineer or label
dnb was a franchise during tekstep days
tech itch lived in bristol back then
Exactly, "If" - he didn't. Case closed.
sold that many on some of them
No he didn't. Have you not read anything in this thread. I managed the record company and distributor that funded his label through the time you mention. No one, and i mean NO ONE, was doing any kind of numbers anywhere near what you are suggesting. Just admit you are wrong and end it. No one has sold 800,000 - 1 million copies of a Drum & Bass tune ever, ever, EVER!! It never happened and never will.
this thread is about all you being oblivous to dnb was like during tekstep days and talking the same shit about jungle tunes
Ive worked in the D&B scene for over 20 years now. And have been listening to it for even longer. I was there from the start, the very start and really know what im talking about when it comes to pressing and sales figures.
unless your a londoner, then most of them listen to kool fm and live where the hood at, and know nothing about anything, and sales are weekly on 1 in the jungle shows etc and reaching 200k for no1 spot, when jump came along and most releases were jump sales went down to 70k and dnb started to die
Im literally gonna say this one more time, then im done, it's tiresome. NO DRUM & BASS TUNE, JUMP UP OR OTHERWISE WAS SELLING 200,000 COPIES AT THE TIME YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OR ANY OTHER TIME. YOU ARE JUST PULLING FIGURES OUT OF THE AIR.
there was only vinyl back then, no cdj`s to download mp3s and mix, dnb was getting as big as house, and there were millions of wannabe dj around the world like any other scene to go with all the events and international circuit tekstep had and all the events in every other city every other night of the week, were not all run by 100% headliners on a mission with personnal concords
Tech Itch tunes sold 1 bagillion copies of each release but Media was fiddling the figures and syphoning off the profits into his own skinny jeans and hair product account in the Cayman Islands.
I would have thought the Ready or Not remix would have brought in fuck-all as it was an unlicensed, limited press bootleg.
Bootlegs are actually very profitable, as someone pointed out they are usually very cheap to manafacture as you rarely have any label or sleeve artwork.
I know how many we pressed on the Fugees bootleg and it was a LOT. After a month or so we got a couple of phone calls from Sony asking us poiltely, but firmly, to stop pressing it. We didn't. We then received a cease & desist order, so we did one last run (maybe 2) and stopped pressing it. Then about a month later, when the heat had died down, did one last press.
If the majors were as clued up as they like to think they are they would have signed Zinc's mix, early on, and released it as an official remix and then everyone involved would have made some money.
As Stimpy pointed out, it was an odd one in so much as it was bootlegged quite a few times after due to demand. There were at least 5 or 6 other presses, all of questionable sound quality, doing the rounds a little while after. It must be one of the most bootlegged bootlegs in history.
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I know how many we pressed on the Fugees bootleg at it was a LOT. After a month or so we got a couple of phone calls from Sony asking us poiltely, but firmly, to stop pressing it. We didn't. We then received a cease & desist order, so we did one last run (maybe 2) and stopped pressing it. Then about a month later, when the heat had dies down, did one last press.
I would have thought the Ready or Not remix would have brought in fuck-all as it was an unlicensed, limited press bootleg.
Bootlegs are actually very profitable, as someone pointed out they are usually very cheap to manafacture as you rarely have any label or sleeve artwork.
I know how many we pressed on the Fugees bootleg and it was a LOT. After a month or so we got a couple of phone calls from Sony asking us poiltely, but firmly, to stop pressing it. We didn't. We then received a cease & desist order, so we did one last run (maybe 2) and stopped pressing it. Then about a month later, when the heat had died down, did one last press.
If the majors were as clued up as they like to think they are they would have signed Zinc's mix, early on, and released it as an official remix and then everyone involved would have made some money.
As Stimpy pointed out, it was an odd one in so much as it was bootlegged quite a few times after due to demand. There were at least 5 or 6 other presses, all of questionable sound quality, doing the rounds a little while after. It must be one of the most bootlegged bootlegs in history.
I was the manager of Record Basement (Vinyl Distribution's shop) for about 3 years, then was asked to actually work for Vinyl Distribution, in it's 'hay day' from around 1996-2001. I then left (or was politely asked to leave actually) i went into detox for a few months, came out and a year later started Nu Urban Music with the owner of Vinyl Distribution, Basement Phil. I have managed NUM for the past 10 years or so, and although i am still a big part of it, i don't actually go into the office any more and do my DJing and production full time.
I would have thought the Ready or Not remix would have brought in fuck-all as it was an unlicensed, limited press bootleg.
Bootlegs are actually very profitable, as someone pointed out they are usually very cheap to manafacture as you rarely have any label or sleeve artwork.
I know how many we pressed on the Fugees bootleg and it was a LOT. After a month or so we got a couple of phone calls from Sony asking us poiltely, but firmly, to stop pressing it. We didn't. We then received a cease & desist order, so we did one last run (maybe 2) and stopped pressing it. Then about a month later, when the heat had died down, did one last press.
If the majors were as clued up as they like to think they are they would have signed Zinc's mix, early on, and released it as an official remix and then everyone involved would have made some money.
As Stimpy pointed out, it was an odd one in so much as it was bootlegged quite a few times after due to demand. There were at least 5 or 6 other presses, all of questionable sound quality, doing the rounds a little while after. It must be one of the most bootlegged bootlegs in history.
fair enough.
Aphrodite's 'No Diggity' bootleg was the same kind of thing too. It sold shit loads.
I was the manager of Record Basement (Vinyl Distribution's shop) for about 3 years, then was asked to actually work for Vinyl Distribution, in it's 'hay day' from around 1996-2001. I then left (or was politely asked to leave actually) i went into detox for a few months, came out and a year later started Nu Urban Music with the owner of Vinyl Distribution, Basement Phil. I have managed NUM for the past 10 years or so, and although i am still a big part of it, i don't actually go into the office any more and do my DJing and production full time.
That's all well and good, but barrymate's from bath and used to work for NASA. Nuff said.
I was the manager of Record Basement (Vinyl Distribution's shop) for about 3 years, then was asked to actually work for Vinyl Distribution, in it's 'hay day' from around 1996-2001. I then left (or was politely asked to leave actually) i went into detox for a few months, came out and a year later started Nu Urban Music with the owner of Vinyl Distribution, Basement Phil. I have managed NUM for the past 10 years or so, and although i am still a big part of it, i don't actually go into the office any more and do my DJing and production full time.
That's all well and good, but barrymate's from bath and used to work for NASA. Nuff said.
I played in Bath recently actually, it was pretty fucking good.
I was the manager of Record Basement (Vinyl Distribution's shop) for about 3 years, then was asked to actually work for Vinyl Distribution, in it's 'hay day' from around 1996-2001. I then left (or was politely asked to leave actually) i went into detox for a few months, came out and a year later started Nu Urban Music with the owner of Vinyl Distribution, Basement Phil. I have managed NUM for the past 10 years or so, and although i am still a big part of it, i don't actually go into the office any more and do my DJing and production full time.
Thanks for that, didn't mean to be a nosey cunt. Sounds pretty cool!
I would have thought the Ready or Not remix would have brought in fuck-all as it was an unlicensed, limited press bootleg.
Bootlegs are actually very profitable, as someone pointed out they are usually very cheap to manafacture as you rarely have any label or sleeve artwork.
I know how many we pressed on the Fugees bootleg and it was a LOT. After a month or so we got a couple of phone calls from Sony asking us poiltely, but firmly, to stop pressing it. We didn't. We then received a cease & desist order, so we did one last run (maybe 2) and stopped pressing it. Then about a month later, when the heat had died down, did one last press.
If the majors were as clued up as they like to think they are they would have signed Zinc's mix, early on, and released it as an official remix and then everyone involved would have made some money.
As Stimpy pointed out, it was an odd one in so much as it was bootlegged quite a few times after due to demand. There were at least 5 or 6 other presses, all of questionable sound quality, doing the rounds a little while after. It must be one of the most bootlegged bootlegs in history.
I would have thought the Ready or Not remix would have brought in fuck-all as it was an unlicensed, limited press bootleg.
Bootlegs are actually very profitable, as someone pointed out they are usually very cheap to manafacture as you rarely have any label or sleeve artwork.
I know how many we pressed on the Fugees bootleg and it was a LOT. After a month or so we got a couple of phone calls from Sony asking us poiltely, but firmly, to stop pressing it. We didn't. We then received a cease & desist order, so we did one last run (maybe 2) and stopped pressing it. Then about a month later, when the heat had died down, did one last press.
If the majors were as clued up as they like to think they are they would have signed Zinc's mix, early on, and released it as an official remix and then everyone involved would have made some money.
As Stimpy pointed out, it was an odd one in so much as it was bootlegged quite a few times after due to demand. There were at least 5 or 6 other presses, all of questionable sound quality, doing the rounds a little while after. It must be one of the most bootlegged bootlegs in history.
Love that
Tell us more behind the scenes stuff!
I would fucking love to, but all the real interesting / juicy stuff would have me either sued, beaten up, or shot.
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