how important is to listen to others genres when producing i find it hard to listen to anything apart from dnb because its what i love an think this is why i have such a hard time thinking of ideas in the lab.
LOL at anyone who only listens to Drum and/or Bass. Do you not realise how ridiculously shit two step rhythms are? It's the second thing a 6 year old would attempt on a drum kit (after mastering Queen's Will Will Rock You riddim).
There's fuck all harmonic or melodic developments. If it wasn't for resonant filters the 'music' would do absolutely nothing. No wonder people on here struggle so much for ideas so much of the time, unless they're under the influence of mind bending drugs such as Stella Artois or Um Bongo.
I pity your brain to be honest.
In fact the only music I don't check for is Drum and Bass. It's a fucking cul de sac.
Why is it that people with no musical knowledge think they should make drum and bass? Biggest problem with the entire scene imo. Dnb needs more musicians and less djs
Why is it that people with no musical knowledge think they should make drum and bass?
That's a mad question. Can we get some elaboration....
From me you can....
Because with the democratisation of digital music, there has been a huge proliferation of absolute shit made by people who have had very little interest in making music before they did their first pills and started raving.
The huge amount of music with little more than two notes filtered over a ridiculously simple beat is inescapable. Sure, there are some genuine artists out there, and yes Ikos, I include you in that but you clearly have a creative mind and have done a shit load of smack so I would expect that from you, even if you're not a musician in the traditional sense but you are in the minority.
As each day progresses and I move further and further away from being a 'producer' the more lucrative my career in music gets.
Keep on producing folks, you public needs you..... lol.
Why is it that people with no musical knowledge think they should make drum and bass? Biggest problem with the entire scene imo. Dnb needs more musicians and less djs
I dont really listen to much new dnb and haven't been raving for ages. I'm a big vinyl head so play what I can find. Been nailing the Afrobeat and digital reggae of late.
It's a big problem I think at the moment with what new dnb I hear, it's influenced by dnb and not much else, people trying to recreate last years big tune with no personal input. Needs more soul, dub, jazz, techno rip offs and less D Bridge/Pendulum/Sub focus rips.
< Message edited by ceejay -- 25/2/2012 1:17:01 AM >
Also.... It's worth noting that out of the more successful or respected music makers on here Sauce, Technocolouringbook, Drifta, Zeal, Hans Zimmer all had a background in music before they got into the whole Drumming and Bassing thing.
How many non musician folks here are picking up credible releases?
I'm backing Era because he consistently drops knowledge, not this dumb shitty 'oh I quite like this snare but it might sound good with another snare on top of it'.
Is it any wonder he gets emotionally drained by all the spastics on here?
Why is it that people with no musical knowledge think they should make drum and bass? Biggest problem with the entire scene imo. Dnb needs more musicians and less djs
define "musical knowledge"
imo some amazing tunes in all kinds of genres have been made by people that can't play instruments. hip hop as a prime example. But yeah it's not good when people have no idea of rhythm/interaction of the elements of what makes a track work start bashing together horrible noises with no real idea of how to make those noises equal something better.
To be fair, dnb was never about musical skills, it's always been about production tricks and techniques, pushing limits and interesting sample choice. The best dnb IMO made was 96-2002 tech step, so much great music coming out. 99% sampled Reece's, breaks and SCI samples. No musical talent needed just a good ear and great engineering skills. Most of which was self taught.
I'll tell you what, in response to what New era said, dnb definitely needs more djs and less producers in the clubs. Dull 1 dimensional sets galore.
I do think it's a bit elitist to suggest that people with no previous musical experience cant make dnb music, many of the great musicians were self taught and had no experience before hand. it's hardly Mozart.
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