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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/04 09:32:10 (permalink)
cheers for the feedback deevs !
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/19 18:06:10 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Stowelly

your saying 6-10 reps deevs?

started at the gym a couple of months ago, the guy doing my inductions been telling me to do about 16 on each, take a min break then another 16, bout 42k on the lat pulldown, similar on the shoulder press and chest press, bench with the dumbells for bout 10, then change direction of them for another 10, then barbell while sitting up  for as much as possible, repeat until fucked..... im sensing this is obviously not the ideal routine, but obviously im just using all these to fit in what i can as the gyms always rammed........ how can i use the above to get the most out of it?

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there would be 2 reasons for giving you the high reps

maybe your goal was weight loss

also it would be crazy to put you straight in to a 6-10 rep plan as the weights would be heavy for someone new - making the chance of pulled muscles/tears or joint injuries alot higher

the muscles and joints need to get used to working and also it will prepare you for heavier weights also your body would not be able to cope with doing giant sets (3 or more exercises on the same body part one after another)




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/19 18:12:14 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Shamus

It's all about the core muscles mangs.....do this every odd day and crunches inbetween, also, after crunches do cardio, very important it benefits the abs allot. Remember the core muscles is the most vital, it prevents injuries,promote good posture to and allow you to squat more and bench more.


i would say do core last

why would you want to tire it out then be stuck in a bad position on a treadmill for 20 mins?

it only takes 7 minutes for your body to be in a bad position for the muscle to lengthen shorten slightly

there is more to core than crunches!!!! what about obliques erector spinae muscle and glutes?

doing sit ups every day is bad for you, they are not a major muscle group why train them every day???

if you do too many sit ups they shorten and you start to lean over - giving you a lordosis posture




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/19 18:22:36 (permalink)


one on the left i normal one on the right is lordosis, you can see the kink in the spine round the lower lumbar tight ab muscles pulling the body into a feotal position

too many deadlifts can bring it on too.

you would need to do back extensions equally to crunches to give the posture balance

kyphosis is worse



pic on the left

you will see people like this in the gym every day - too much benching and bad form on tricep pushdown so the pecs shorten and the back goes to sleep.

the way to put this right is to do alot of row exercises while squeezing the shoulder blades together




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/19 18:46:42 (permalink)

On these. Working better than the powder stuff.

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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/19 18:49:30 (permalink)
heard bad things about creatine and doubts about how effective it is.
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 12:57:34 (permalink)
Deevs or anyone can you recommend some chest muscle exercises please, my breasts are moving further east and west than I would like.
 
Currently doing this... and its having no effect worried its working the wrong muscles
 
taaaaaaaaaaaa muchly


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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:01:51 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Rachel

Deevs or anyone can you recommend some chest muscle exercises please, my breasts are moving further east and west than I would like.

Currently doing this... and its having no effect worried its working the wrong muscles

taaaaaaaaaaaa muchly


that is working chest

also front shoulder and tricep




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:02:36 (permalink)
flys to work the middle?

do i pay attention?!


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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:05:40 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Rachel

Deevs or anyone can you recommend some chest muscle exercises please, my breasts are moving further east and west than I would like.

Currently doing this... and its having no effect worried its working the wrong muscles

taaaaaaaaaaaa muchly


I got asked about this by a patient not long ago actually. dumbell press/butterfly press will help. also swimming will work better than most other exercise. PM me if you want me to send exercise sheet, there will be one in the office somewhere.
post edited by laura_hubery - 2008/10/20 13:07:43
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:10:09 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: SWY*TCH

flys to work the middle?

do i pay attention?!


good girl


they do work the side aswell




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:10:33 (permalink)


ORIGINAL: DEEVS

ORIGINAL: Rachel

Deevs or anyone can you recommend some chest muscle exercises please, my breasts are moving further east and west than I would like.

Currently doing this... and its having no effect worried its working the wrong muscles

taaaaaaaaaaaa muchly


that is working chest

also front shoulder and tricep

SO MY boobies should be staying closer together then?
I got asked about this by a patient not long ago actually. dumbell press/butterfly press will help. also swimming will work better than most other exercise. PM me if you want me to send exercise sheet, there will be one in the office somewhere.
ooo yes please, more than willing to add/change exercises to/in my routine
I also do this and if the chest press machine isn't free then I use free weights and lift parallel in front of me (I think parallel is the word)
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:13:04 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Rachel
I also do this and if the chest press machine isn't free then I use free weights and lift parallel in front of me (I think parallel is the word)


the first one lateral raise is doing top shoulder

by the sounds of what you are describing thats front raise doing front shoulder

none of that is chest




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:14:55 (permalink)


ORIGINAL: DEEVS


the first one lateral raise is doing top shoulder

by the sounds of what you are describing thats front raise doing front shoulder

none of that is chest

so what should I do please aahhhh stop the breasticles moving someone please
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:16:22 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Rachel

ORIGINAL: DEEVS


the first one lateral raise is doing top shoulder

by the sounds of what you are describing thats front raise doing front shoulder

none of that is chest

so what should I do please aahhhh stop the breasticles moving someone please


I can hold them still for you.
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:18:16 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: DEEVS

ORIGINAL: SWY*TCH

flys to work the middle?

do i pay attention?!


good girl


they do work the side aswell




i dun a listen


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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:18:38 (permalink)
Going to the gym today after a month off with back-knack, looking forward to it/dreading it but I need to lose some weight.
 
DEEVS I do 3 sets of 10 reps on all machines, is this good/bad? Would more sets/less reps be better? Or any other combination?
 
Cheers.


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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:19:15 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Rachel

ORIGINAL: DEEVS


the first one lateral raise is doing top shoulder

by the sounds of what you are describing thats front raise doing front shoulder

none of that is chest

so what should I do please aahhhh stop the breasticles moving someone please


laura gave some good examples

i would recommend the decline bench but its always taken.

also press ups you can do them at home

do you have a resistance band




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:20:36 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Joga

DEEVS I do 3 sets of 10 reps on all machines, is this good/bad? Would more sets/less reps be better? Or any other combination?

Cheers.


ok how many machines do you do in one session, list them please?




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:26:05 (permalink)
I looked into joining LA fitness, cos it's walking distance and they had some half price offer.
 
The half price deal only applies when you sign up for membership to all their gyms in London, which still works out at 35 quid. Membership to just your local one is 40. What a fucking ripoff.



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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:34:34 (permalink)


ORIGINAL: Joga

Going to the gym today after a month off with back-knack, looking forward to it/dreading it but I need to lose some weight.



 
that will be savage, you'll be half dead by the end of it
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 13:40:06 (permalink)


ORIGINAL: DEEVS

ORIGINAL: Joga

DEEVS I do 3 sets of 10 reps on all machines, is this good/bad? Would more sets/less reps be better? Or any other combination?

Cheers.


ok how many machines do you do in one session, list them please?


If I go 3x a week I tend to do (not sure of machine names so this might be entertaining):

Day 1:
- Pulldown
- Push up thing (triceps/biceps)
- The shoulder one
- The pushy out one (chest muscles)
- The back one (pulling the handles towards you, row or something)
- The abs one

Day 2:
- Leg push thing
- Thigh/ass push thing
- Those two thigh ones, inny and outy
- The other thigh/ass ones, lifting up/pulling down

Then day 3 mix and match between my favourites
 
That'll be about 25-30 mins of an hour-long session.
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 14:11:38 (permalink)
DEEVS is so disgusted with my lack of knowledge about gym machinery that he has decided to ignore me.
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 14:14:41 (permalink)
Creatine Mohohydrate at the mo with this being my basic diet
Breakfast
Option 1 - Scrambled Eggs with Smoked Salmon or some healthy eating bacon
Option 2 - Porridge with honey and blueberries with slice of wholemeal toast and peanut butter
Option 3 - Bran Flakes/Museli/All Bran with slice of wholemeal toast and peanut butter
Option 4 - Poached Eggs on Wholemeal Toast with bowl of bran flakes or All Bran

Mid-Morning Snack

Handful of Almonds
Fresh Fruit
30g Cheese
Oatcakes

Lunch
Option 1 – Chicken/Turkey/Ham/Tuna Sandwich
Option 2 - Wholewheat Pasta with Bolognese
Option 3 - Wholewheat Pasta with Pesto and Chicken
Option 4 - Brown Rice with mixed vegetables and Chicken/Turkey/Beef/Tuna

Afternoon Snack More nuts
Yoghurt
Fruit
Protein shake

Dinner
Option 1 - Chicken Breast/Turkey Breast with Fresh Vegetables such as broccoli, carrots, cauliflower, cabbage
Option 2 - Stir Fry Vegetables with either Chicken/Prawns/Tuna Steak/Salmon etc
Options 3 - Salmon & Vegetables
Option 4 - Some kind of lean steak or beef with vegetables

PWO/Evening
Some form of Protein shake or protein snack (approx 25g protein)
Ryvita or Oatcakes with Cottage Cheese/Egg
 
 

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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 14:16:13 (permalink)


ORIGINAL: Joga


- Push up thing



 
 Got to admit, i do 3 sets of 10 on all the machines, i couldn't name half of them.
 
 
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 14:44:19 (permalink)


ORIGINAL: Joga

DEEVS is so disgusted with my lack of knowledge about gym machinery that he has decided to ignore me.

he's probably walking round the gym now trying to see which ones are which on your list of descriptions lol
hen I 1st went to the gym they advised doing 3 sets of ten but recently I asked one of the trainers and he told me do 1 set of 8 on a lighter weight as a warm up and a set of 16 on a weight that by about 12 you start to really struggle. I got a bigger notice in my muscles I have to say maybe its psychological thoguh
post edited by Rachel - 2008/10/20 14:45:35
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 15:28:44 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Joga

DEEVS is so disgusted with my lack of knowledge about gym machinery that he has decided to ignore me.


sorry mate i had to go out!!!

give me 5 mins




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 15:30:28 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Joga

ORIGINAL: DEEVS

ORIGINAL: Joga

DEEVS I do 3 sets of 10 reps on all machines, is this good/bad? Would more sets/less reps be better? Or any other combination?

Cheers.


ok how many machines do you do in one session, list them please?


If I go 3x a week I tend to do (not sure of machine names so this might be entertaining):

Day 1:
- Pulldown
- Push up thing (triceps/biceps)
- The shoulder one
- The pushy out one (chest muscles)
- The back one (pulling the handles towards you, row or something)
- The abs one

Day 2:
- Leg push thing
- Thigh/ass push thing
- Those two thigh ones, inny and outy
- The other thigh/ass ones, lifting up/pulling down

Then day 3 mix and match between my favourites

That'll be about 25-30 mins of an hour-long session.



not bad why not do a 3 day split - its easy and definately works

Day 1 Back/Triceps

Day 2 Legs/Shoulders

Day 3 Chest/Biceps


????




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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 15:31:35 (permalink)
I was only joking anyway man
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RE: @ Gym peeps 2008/10/20 15:35:25 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Rachel

ORIGINAL: Joga

DEEVS is so disgusted with my lack of knowledge about gym machinery that he has decided to ignore me.

he's probably walking round the gym now trying to see which ones are which on your list of descriptions lol



here is what i can make sense of, some of them have fucking stumped me
ORIGINAL: Joga

Day 1:
- Pulldown - Lat Pull Down
- Push up thing (triceps/biceps) - this one has fucking stumped me lol Press Ups? they dont work bicep
- The shoulder one - Seated Shoulder Press
- The pushy out one (chest muscles) - Chest Press
- The back one (pulling the handles towards you, row or something) Seated Row
- The abs one - Abdominal Crunch

Day 2:
- Leg push thing - Leg Press
- Thigh/ass push thing - Glute Press? Leg Curl?
- Those two thigh ones, inny and outy - Hip Abductor/Adductor
- The other thigh/ass ones, lifting up/pulling down - Leg Extension?






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