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RUSSELL CLARTY
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/09/28 12:35:06 (permalink)
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Yeah looks like it. It seemed like he really knew his stuff when it came to health and nutrition.
 
This whole 'perfect diet' debate is a minefield, especially the high fat/low carb thing. I watched the debate on JRE last night and was just left completely confused, both constantly referencing and dismissing one another's studies. It seems that according to studies going back 60 years there is a strong correlation between high cholesterol and high risk of heart disease but more recent studies in the last 5 years completely contradict this.




Poliquin was well known for being a bit of a quack amongst some of his contemporaries. His "go hard or go home" attitude smelled bad to me, coaches with that one size fits all/arrogant mentality stick out like a sore thumb.
 
Did a lot of gear when he was younger too as I understand it, had heart bypasses in his 30s?
 
High cholesterol in the diet and high cholesterol in the bloodstream are two different matters. Check out Robert Lustig's book "Fat Chance" where he covers the debate about the causes of heart disease. The sugar industry has a lot of answer for. 
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/09/28 14:35:08 (permalink)
Nice one, will check it out.
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 09:07:11 (permalink)
Knocked out a tough track session last night. 16 x 400 metres with 90seconds rest between each rep.
 
Sounds straightforward enough, only 4 miles of hard effort, but mentally and physically very tough.
 
I had a plan to keep all reps around 80 seconds, which is equivalent to around 5:20/mile, 16:30/5km, 33:00/10km, 2:20/marathon pace (albeit only for 400 metres at a time!).
 
Managed to hold it for 12 reps at around 79-80secs, then my legs started to give up on me, and reps 13-16 were finished off in around 84-85secs.
 
Apart from the obvious tiredness, the next issue is finishing a session like that at around 8-30pm then trying to get relaxed and to sleep any time before midnight.
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 09:29:53 (permalink)
400's for reps! Fuck's sake Travs, why don't you throw in some hurdles you lightweight? 


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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 09:34:10 (permalink)
My only exercise is 5-a-side with mates on a Thursday, I get the same thing though. Finish at 9pm and then can't get to sleep until about 1am so am knackered every Friday.
Travs
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 09:36:18 (permalink)
Ha....  400's aren't too bad...  can blast them out, and if you've got reasonable recovery, then 90 seconds is a good rest, basically enough time to walk 100 metres to allow you to keep the legs moving. Though the fatigue does build up and when it hits, its pretty debilitating.
 
I find it's 800's or 1000's that hurt most, a cruel combination between speed and endurance. I'd certainly find 8 x 800m an even harder prospect than 16 x 400m.
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 10:00:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fiend. 2018/10/11 09:33:56
You really are a mad cunt aren't you?!
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 10:03:19 (permalink)
I was doing sprints for reps earlier in the year, I found it very enjoyable- the emphasis was on quality so it was flat out 60 ms, working up to 8 reps
 
Gave myself a nice dose of achilles tendonitis! 
 
I used to get stuck running 400s as a kid as I was neither fast enough for 100s and too slow for 8's and I can honestly say I genuinely believe it's the worst distance going. That last straight is a long way from fun. Your ultra marathon distances don't count, they aren't for humans


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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 10:11:06 (permalink)
I preferred the 800m as I was fit enough to do it at a decent time, wasn't fast enough for 100m and didn't like the 400m for the same reasons as you!
Travs
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 10:33:06 (permalink)
400m are just about within the realms of being 'sprintable' for me.
 
Toughest race distance for me (despite doing a lot of long and ultra distance stuff), is the good old 10km.
 
5km is over quick enough, but 10km demands speed and the ability to keep going relentlessly.
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 19:18:25 (permalink)
A few months ago, I converted to push/pull workouts from the standard muscle per session approach and holy shit - it's a game changer. Dem gainz since.
 
Makes a ton of sense, wish I'd done it earlier. So much more efficient too.
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 19:55:13 (permalink)
I think I’m getting bored of 5/5. Once I peak I can’t really progress further. And if I don’t go for a week or so then it takes time getting back to peak again. Shame as I loved the build up to peak but wasn’t seeing much gains although I was probably stronger internally

Used to do push/pull years ago and liked it. Will move to that and keep in squats
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 22:36:27 (permalink)
Yeah you can go all out and do another day for legs, I just chuck in the squats here and there at the end of workouts.
 
There's just too much rest for the muscle group on the 5/5. Only need 48 hrs recovery, especially if you're taking quality supplements. Can hit 'em much more regularly on push/pulls, and there's more room for variety on exercises IMO.
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/10 23:59:52 (permalink)
Push/Pull/Legs is deffo the way forward, my legs especially have come along leaps & bounds since going to that split
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/11 13:02:13 (permalink)
Anyone got a good push/pull routine link?

I used to think pull was back and biceps, push was chest and triceps and I did this for a while but looking at my old routine there’s some contradictions. For example, wide grip pull ups for triceps is actually pull
H. H. Holmes
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/11 16:18:12 (permalink)
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=149807833&page=1

Good starting point & add in your exercises/supersets
Travs
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Re: RE: @ Gym peeps 2018/10/18 14:04:48 (permalink)
Last sunday ran in the final race of the Welsh Fell Running Championships. Although the weather was not too bad by the time we left the start line, it was atrocious beforehand and the day before, and was pretty nasty driving there down the M6 & M54, so the damage was already done to the terrain
 
Finished 28th over some pretty gruesome and slippery climbs and descents. 7 miles took me 1hr08, which shows the difficulty of moving over this terrain and gradient...  that sort of distance on a road or track i'd be looking at something around 45mins.
 
Now it's the start of the Cross Country season, which is incredibly hard work, and fast going over shorter courses than i like. The Birmingham League is regarded as just about the top league in Europe, covering a large geographical area from Stoke on Trent down to Cheltenham, and Telford across to Northampton, and some proper high quality teams such as Birchfield Harriers, Loughborough Uni, Cheltenham, Tipton, as well as us from Cov. Take the foot off the gas for even a few seconds and people stream past you. I reckon of a field of 300 people, you have to go back to around 250th place before the quality drops off. Everything above that is an absolute battle for every place.
 
Also got a couple of ultras on the mountains in December...  55 miles over the Cheviot Hills in Northumbria, then a fortnight later another 38 mile race in the Lakes.
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