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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/08 20:08:30 (permalink)
Had a 40 mile race today around the outside of Coventry. Unfortunately had to retire after about 31 miles as my knee isn't quite recovered from last week.... could have probably carried on and hobbled round to the finish, but decided it wasn't worth the risk of doing some damage, with a 100 mile race on the horizon. Shame as I reckon I was in 2nd place when I bailed out.

But live to fight another day, and including today's race that's about 55 miles ran this week, and 13000ft of climb.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/08 20:54:26 (permalink)
How did you get on running on the flat? I find it so easy to drop the pace without realising on the flat where as hills I don't for some reason. 
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/09 00:28:33 (permalink)
Travs
Had a 40 mile race today around the outside of Coventry. Unfortunately had to retire after about 31 miles as my knee isn't quite recovered from last week.... could have probably carried on and hobbled round to the finish, but decided it wasn't worth the risk of doing some damage, with a 100 mile race on the horizon. Shame as I reckon I was in 2nd place when I bailed out.

But live to fight another day, and including today's race that's about 55 miles ran this week, and 13000ft of climb.


Have a rest mate.

You’ll run yourself into the ground. I’ve had problems with my knee down the years and there have been times when I haven’t been able to jog at all, which isn’t a nice feeling.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/09 05:40:21 (permalink)
Rapt
How did you get on running on the flat? I find it so easy to drop the pace without realising on the flat where as hills I don't for some reason. 


I found it the opposite, strangely. Easy to keep up the pace, in fact it's hard work to keep the pace down to a sustainable level, and that possibly contributed to my problems later on.

I've just got so much more experience on the hills so know what pace to go at, but on the flat I've never done such a distance.

Didn't help that I had in my mind that I was a potential race winner, so I went out hard. In my 100 mile race I know that's a recipe for disaster and I'll run with completely different mentality and tactics, and of course the knowledge that I haven't got a hope in hell of winning, so I'll just quietly do my thing and pick my way through the field (hopefully!)
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/10 12:16:20 (permalink)
Had a couple of days to let the weekend's events sink in, and being brutally honest with myself, i didn't do a very good job.
 
Too hyped up with the thought of getting a good place, went out far too hard, and with a slight knee issue, it was always a recipe for disaster, especially having not done that distance on the flat (it's almost a different sport entirely from fell/mountain running). 
 
My 100 mile race will be a different kettle of fish as i have a plan, and i'm not looking to win, just to (hopefully) finish well.
 
In better news, I've been selected to run for Warwickshire in the British Fell County Championships. I'm the first to acknowledge that Warwickshire is not big mountain country, but it's the highest accolade i'm likely to achieve, so hopefully i don't fuck it up.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/10 19:53:02 (permalink)
You're an animal Travs. Congrats on the county level. Don't be surprised if you're the only guy there!
Been doing 5k in the park beside my house with some body weight stuff tagged on after 2-3 times per week, it's about as much as I can handle but it keeps me sane.
Brought the 5 year old lad out today as he always wants to go for a run with me. He did about 1k with plenty of breaks for exercises on the way. Delighted for him.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/10 21:17:01 (permalink)
Travs I had a twinge in one of my knees and knew I'd fuck it up if I ran on it so spent a week or so walking on the treadmill, incline 12-15 on 4.5 speed for an hour. Absolute killer and my knee felt fine. Just an idea if you want to keep training a bit while you're knee's playing up.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/11 05:20:32 (permalink)
Cheers for the advice. I've had two soIid days rest, and that's pretty much what I'll be doing for a few days on the treadmill. Can't really build much more endurance in the remaining 4 weeks until the race, so I'll just be making sure I get on the start line free of injury.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/11 08:50:33 (permalink)
Rapt
Travs I had a twinge in one of my knees and knew I'd fuck it up if I ran on it so spent a week or so walking on the treadmill, incline 12-15 on 4.5 speed for an hour. Absolute killer and my knee felt fine. Just an idea if you want to keep training a bit while you're knee's playing up.




I usually spend about 25-30 min on the treadmill with the majority of it on 14 incline, with bouts of 30-40 seconds of running every 2 min. Do you tend to hold on to the top or the bars for support the whole time (except running) or switch it up? The support/balance you have when holding on makes it easier, but doesn't feel no where near as testing. Holding on is a lot nicer on the knees tbf.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/11 09:06:35 (permalink)
I personally don't hold on at all, whatever speed or incline, as for me it's sports-specific, and there's nothing to hold onto when running up the side of a mountain.
 
But if you're doing it for fitness there's no reason you couldn't hold on, expect for as you say, it's much less challenging, and you're not engaging your core so much to hold yourself upright. Of course, if you don't hold on, it's incredibly difficult to hold a good posture and you can easily find yourself bent over quite alarmingly.
 
I must admit that when using the stair-climber i lean my hands on the top, more for balance. But when i use that it's just for pure cardio effort than necessarily specific training.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/11 10:21:40 (permalink)
Yea fair play, holding on is completely detrimental to your training. Like you said, it's about holding that posture and working the core as well as battering the legs and it's too easy to find yourself leaning forward if you don't hold on. Think i'll lower the incline a couple degree and work back up to this level once I've got the posture right.
 
The stairs is a percy of mine for cardio, sweat your tits on it climbing 100 stories
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/11 10:30:30 (permalink)
I never hold on to the bar, I will drop the incline down to 8 every 10 mins or so just to recoup a little. It's perfect for me as my mind can handle an hours walking on a treadmill a lot better than 20 mins running on one.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/21 15:27:57 (permalink)
Anyone had any success in sorting out shoulder impingement? My shoulders/back are fairly fucked from a decade of sitting at a desk. Might give pilates a go...
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/22 15:09:29 (permalink)
Short 5 mile fell race in the Long Mynd (Shropshire) today. Finally got a top ten finish, coming home in 8th despite a massive fall and now having what appears to be a 2nd kneecap on my left leg.

Managed to improve on last year's time by 12 minutes which I was absolutely shocked by. I've been working hard but didn't expect such a good result. Was only 6 mins behind the winner, and within a couple of mins of 3rd place, so I can get there if I keep working hard.

Of course this has absolutely no bearing on my performance at the 100 mile race in a couple of weeks, other than a massive confidence boost that I'm moving in the right direction.
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Re: [FAQ] GYM THREAD 2018/04/22 16:35:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Smokey McPot 2018/04/22 21:23:24
Syzlack_23
Anyone had any success in sorting out shoulder impingement? My shoulders/back are fairly fucked from a decade of sitting at a desk. Might give pilates a go...


I do pilates and yes, it helps my back.

Give it a whirl.
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